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Thread Starter 

Apologies up front that I haven't scoured every thread in the gear discussion forum for information--although I continue to look after posting this.

 

What I want: New ski purchase advice

Stats (me): 6'1", 200lbs, athletic, late 40's

How long skiing: Contantly at age 18, then nothing, now 10-20 times per year from 2006 until now.

What/Where I ski: Currently Pac NW, Mount Bachelor

What I prefer: Groomed, some off-piste, desire to do better in crud, wet NW powder and moguls (so maybe i'm 70% on and 30% off)

Type of Runs: Harder Blue, 1 Black Diamond. (if you ski Bachelor I like the runs off of Northwest lift)

Ski days per season: Approximately 18-22.

 

I've been using a pair of Salmon Lords for about 4-5 years now. I bought them at a low low price new and have loved them, mostly, ever since. I've realized lately that part of what my perceived issues with these skis might be has perhaps not only to do with muscle control and technique but with the skis themselves.

 

First, they are--I now realize--too short for me at 169. The bindings are set further back on the skis--not sure why and I never noticed til this season! 

 

I am looking to replace them with a pair of skiis similar or better than these. I have a very broad idea of what waist, turning radius, flex, tip, camber/rocker I'd like but nothing too studied.

 

I have found I like the twin tips or partial twin tips. I think mid-fat is fat enough

 

Any recommendations would be helpful!

 

I have either looked at or had these skis recommended: Salmon: Lords, Sentinel; ON3P: Tychoon, Jeronimo; Nordica: Ace of Spades; Rossi: S3; Dynastar: 85; Scott: Mission 2012; Vokl: Gotama, Mantra.  These are the ones which come to mind now.

 

I'd like to narrow down to five and then DEMO :) Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

-Pjvanvox

post #2 of 6

If you want a crud buster that would do amazing on groomers too I would recommend Moment Bibby Pro in 190 or look into Moment Jaguar Shark in 187. If you are an upper advanced skier, I think you would LOVE either one of these. I have both of them and these skis are the King of the Mountain; plain and simple

post #3 of 6
Thread Starter 

Thanks Dkash! I'll check them out. They seem a little 'fatter' than I was thinking about but I can always look for demos and try them out!

post #4 of 6

PJ --  You are 200 lbs, athletic and ski mostly groomed "harder blues", and want to do better in crud and moguls.  I think you should demo the Volkl Mantra.  It will probably do everything you want -- it's not a finesse ski in moguls, but with your build you should be able power the Mantras through the bumps.  Another thought: Line Prophet 98.  I don't think you need a rockered ski if you're mainly skiing on piste.

 

Disclosure:  I'm not an expert -- I just read a lot of reviews...

post #5 of 6
Thread Starter 

The Mantra has actually been recommended.. so I will give it a try!

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Originally Posted by pjvanvox View Post

Apologies up front that I haven't scoured every thread in the gear discussion forum for information--although I continue to look after posting this.

What I want: New ski purchase advice
Stats (me): 6'1", 200lbs, athletic, late 40's
How long skiing: Contantly at age 18, then nothing, now 10-20 times per year from 2006 until now.
What/Where I ski: Currently Pac NW, Mount Bachelor
What I prefer: Groomed, some off-piste, desire to do better in crud, wet NW powder and moguls (so maybe i'm 70% on and 30% off)
Type of Runs: Harder Blue, 1 Black Diamond. (if you ski Bachelor I like the runs off of Northwest lift)
Ski days per season: Approximately 18-22.

I've been using a pair of Salmon Lords for about 4-5 years now. I bought them at a low low price new and have loved them, mostly, ever since. I've realized lately that part of what my perceived issues with these skis might be has perhaps not only to do with muscle control and technique but with the skis themselves.

First, they are--I now realize--too short for me at 169. The bindings are set further back on the skis--not sure why and I never noticed til this season! 

I am looking to replace them with a pair of skiis similar or better than these. I have a very broad idea of what waist, turning radius, flex, tip, camber/rocker I'd like but nothing too studied.

I have found I like the twin tips or partial twin tips. I think mid-fat is fat enough

Any recommendations would be helpful!

I have either looked at or had these skis recommended: Salmon: Lords, Sentinel; ON3P: Tychoon, Jeronimo; Nordica: Ace of Spades; Rossi: S3; Dynastar: 85; Scott: Mission 2012; Vokl: Gotama, Mantra.  These are the ones which come to mind now.

I'd like to narrow down to five and then DEMO smile.gif Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

-Pjvanvox

Now that's a "what ski should I get" post.

I would also reccommend considering Mantras to demo. I have the 2010 no early rise model and find them to be exceptional in the conditions you describe. I'm 6'3, 210 in the buff, late 40's, spend most of my time off the groomed but have wider skis for that. Used to live/ski in PNW so am familiar with your heavy wet snow.
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