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post #31 of 48

Seriously, guys, one of you really needs to stick a UVO on your DPSes and report back.   :)

 

http://starthaus.com/marker-uvo-ski-dampener.html

post #32 of 48

send me 2 pair - I'll try them on my Helldorados - tips and tails.

post #33 of 48

I only skied the Shiros one run, on a top to bottom soft groomer, and I thought they were super solid big turn trucks. I liked my Nordica Patron/Unleashed Hells better on variable conditions- more nimble. My friends who ski the Shiro in powder really love them- just not so much on the runouts. Can't rave enough about the Shiro juniors tho. If you live anywhere near where powder is frequent (that would be East this year, I guess) and have kids, the Shiro juniors will turn a family powder day into a smile party. They can usually be found on sale for a couple hundred. 

 

Here. I found some Shiro Jr.s cheap. Tears to giggles, priceless .

post #34 of 48

Mr. Crab:

"I liked my Nordica Patron/Unleashed Hells better on variable conditions- more nimble"

 

Does "better" above refer to better than the Shiros or better than the VWKs ?

 

The Patron has always been on my radar to buy but I never pulled the trigger.

Any other general comments on the Patron vs VWK's ?

 

thanks - Andy

post #35 of 48

Love the VWKs! A class above...  I prefer the Patron to the Shiro, but that's me, and I've barely skied the Shiro. The VWKs float similar to the Patron in powder, surfy- but even more nimble, quicker, weightless.. then they carve groomers like a Mantra. The Patrons are a decent hard snow ski, The VWKs are great. Then there's the weight factor- I really prefer a lightweight ski because I hike a lot, traverse a lot, and generally explore. I still see them as a quiver ski, but Mr. Banks ^ uses them every day- and he's a Volkl rep, no? Choice of the whole line... that says a lot. 

post #36 of 48
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Originally Posted by ARL67 View Post
 

Both myself and my pal have owned a few sets of DPS over the last 3 years. 

Between us -> 112RP Pure, 112RP Pure2, 99 Pure2, 99 Pure3 

 

Both of us also have the VW Katana ( me 177, he 191 ) and it is significantly more damp than any DPS we have ridden.

As Mr. Crab above mentioned, The Blister Gear review is spot on in its description.

 

I am surprised the VWK's have not garnered more real-skiing attention.

I think maybe because it being  A) a Volkl  B) its radical construction  C) uber-aesthetics .... combine to make it perceived as a "novelty ski"

Of course, at 112 waist it wouldn't be in the daily-driver category for most people, thus garnering more frequent chat/inquiry.

 

I have my 177 up for sale in Gear Swap not because I dislike, but because I would readily re-buy them longer.

I should have learned by now ( but didn't in my 177 purchase ) that any carbon ski can be purchased much longer as the swing weight is much lower.

Like the DPS , the VWK are so easy to throw around if one has to make a quick move.

 

- Andy

 

 

Could just be an uberkrappi season in much of the country for a 112 ski. Really nice skis for sure though. 

post #37 of 48
I probably now have over 100 days on 191 KVW's. Mostly resort days, but I have backcountry skied them in the Tetons, Wasatch, Chugach, and Talkeetna's.

Mine are mounted with Duke's, so I can switch between my Nordics Dobie's and my Dalbello Sherpa's.

Can't think of a better ski.

HB
post #38 of 48
Dang Auto- Correct...

NORDICA Dobie's


HB
post #39 of 48

As ARL67 knows, it's my favourite ski ever and I'v not had the chance to try them in deep POW yet.  It's now my one ski quiver.

post #40 of 48

Zis is vat happens when you don't ski your CarboKatanas with care.

 

post #41 of 48

That's not good, what did you do to it ?  Did you fall and the ski pop off and fly into the air and land on it's tip ?

 

KevinF had a Elan do that too, years back.

post #42 of 48

OWWWWW!

post #43 of 48
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Originally Posted by Max Capacity View Post
 

That's not good, what did you do to it ?  Did you fall and the ski pop off and fly into the air and land on it's tip ?

 

KevinF had a Elan do that too, years back.

 

The hapless KVW driver pictured is not me, I just ran across the photo on a web forum while researching the topic... According to the story, the guy snapped the ski when loading it at speed in bumped-out terrain.

post #44 of 48

I've broken (more like de-laminated) another ski

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Originally Posted by VladSki View Post
 

 

The hapless KVW driver pictured is not me, I just ran across the photo on a web forum while researching the topic... According to the story, the guy snapped the ski when loading it at speed in bumped-out terrain.


I can't see how it could clean break like that from 'loading' it... he would have to have been leaning forward and with that much pressure he should have ejected from the binding -no?  Trust me -I know from experience!  I delaminated the tail of my PM Gear Lhasa carbon while landing a small jump and leaning too far back and even then it did not snap like the picture.

post #45 of 48
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Originally Posted by ludwigk View Post
 

I've broken (more like de-laminated) another ski


I can't see how it could clean break like that from 'loading' it... he would have to have been leaning forward and with that much pressure he should have ejected from the binding -no?  Trust me -I know from experience!  I delaminated the tail of my PM Gear Lhasa carbon while landing a small jump and leaning too far back and even then it did not snap like the picture.


The "clean break" is right where the structural core on this particular ski goes from 100% Width under the boot/binding, very quickly down to only 50% Width. It's certainly plausible for it to break right at that point.

post #46 of 48
Wow. I'd like to hear the story behind this one.

I'd venture a guess 1) no ski would take the force needed to do this kind of damage; and 2) the damage might involve a ski rack and a garage door.

Just my .02

I've skied mine in every kind of condition and they have performed flawlessly.

HB
post #47 of 48
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Originally Posted by HarkinBanks View Post

Wow. I'd like to hear the story behind this one.

 

Well, here is Google Translate from the Russian ski forum where the story popped up:

 

The main advantage of this ski is its lightness. Well suited for skiing in powder, excluding hard bumps and occasional rocks. I think the ski is not suitable for major base repairs. Tried this ski in Val d'Isere (France). On the fourth day the ski broke down at the transition point to the thinned out area, in a situation that was nothing extraordinary - cutting through bumped out terrain at speed. By the way, this classic Katana cut from the same bump no problem. So we went back to the classics.

post #48 of 48

I had a Volkl AX3 bend about half way between the tip and binding, but never broke a ski like that. Thinking about it, one of my G30's did that same bend, half way between the tip and binding.

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