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ZipFit liners for me?

post #1 of 10
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I bought a pair of Head Raptor Project RS 115 boots a couple of years ago, which I found to be absolutely excellent. I spent a long time beforehand trying to persuade myself that I could squeeze into a 26.5 size, for a performance fit, but I came to the conclusion that the only way they could be made wearable at all for me would be after extensive work by a bootfitter, preferably in-resort so I could go back there to deal with teething troubles. Being based in Britain and flying to the Alps for ski holidays, this wasn't really viable for me. So I went for 27.5 (the liner actually says 27.0 on it, and the shells themselves have no size marking other than for length, 313mm). These felt pretty snug and have worked out well.

 

Now, though, 2 years later, the liners have clearly packed out somewhat, and by mid-morning I need to tighten the boots up to the last notch on the buckles. By mid afternoon, they're starting to feel a little loose and I don't feel that immediate communication with my skis that I'm looking for. So I need to find some solution. One of my main problems is that I have very skinny feet and thin calves, so most boots are rather too voluminous for me. The Raptors are a 98mm last, though, which is one of the reasons I chose them.

 

So, I'm thinking of getting some ZipFit liners. Problem is that nowhere local to me sells them so I either have to travel a long way to get them, which I don't really have time to do just now, or buy them online. I'm not sure which ones I would need, though. Maybe Grand Prix? I would ideally like them to take up just a little more volume than the original liners. I really like the prospect of extremely good heel hold and an overall tight fit which doesn't pack out. Unfortunately ZipFits are not widely available in the UK, although CEM on here does them, I know, and I would go to see him if I could find the time.

 

So any suggestions on model and sizing would be most welcome!

post #2 of 10

what does your foot measure on a mondopoint sizing tool?

 

this would be helpful in determining a good solution for you. 

 

if your foot measures a 26.5 or smaller, you are throwing out good money to fix a boot that is too large for your foot. if that turns out to be the case the fix is to spend the money to get the correct size boot for your foot and forget about the zip fit liner.

 

jim

post #3 of 10
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I don't have a specific mondopoint sizing tool, but I used the technique of standing with my heel against a wall and measuring the distance from the wall to the end of my longest toe. I did this both with footbeds and without, and the measurement was very close (within a couple of millimetres), at around 27.5cm. So it does look as if the boots are the right length. I maybe should have gone for something with a 95mm last, but then you run into issues of stiffness, as boots with this last size tend to be stiff race boots which might not work for a lightweight guy like me (5'11", 145lb).
 

post #4 of 10

its easy to make a stiff boot softer (like making a small boot bigger)

post #5 of 10
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Originally Posted by mntlion View Post

its easy to make a stiff boot softer (like making a small boot bigger)

 

OK, that's something I'll consider when I get my next set of boots. For the moment, though, I'm really just looking for a recommendation for which ZipFit model to go for - unless you think that none of them will help my situation?

 

One point I should make is that, while I'm keen on getting the best performance out of my boots I can, I simply do not ski enough to spend a large percentage of my annual ski time trying to get painfully tight fitting boots to be bearable - I'm willing to accept a bit of a compromise here. And even if I were prepared to do so, my situation as a UK-based skier flying to various Alpine resorts for my skiing doesn't really allow it. Unlike in the States, I can't ski where there is a known good bootfitter whom I could keep going back to. (Of course, there must be many good bootfitters in Alpine resorts, but they don't have a presence here).

post #6 of 10

buy the thickest zip fit liner you can, in size 27.

 

 

No idea what model that is,  can't you ask who ever you are ordering the liners from?

post #7 of 10
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Originally Posted by mntlion View Post

buy the thickest zip fit liner you can, in size 27.

 

 

No idea what model that is,  can't you ask who ever you are ordering the liners from?

Grand Prix is what you need in the latest Zip fit.

post #8 of 10
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Originally Posted by mntlion View Post

buy the thickest zip fit liner you can, in size 27.

 

 

No idea what model that is,  can't you ask who ever you are ordering the liners from?

 

I've tried to get in touch with ZipFit themselves, by email and via their contact page, but no joy so far. They're not making this easy...I'll try ringin on Monday, if I can find a number.

post #9 of 10
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Originally Posted by paulski View Post

Grand Prix is what you need in the latest Zip fit.

 

I'll try to find those over here. I can get hold of Classics in the right size, but would they be too bulky for my Head Raptor RS 115 boots, with their 98mm last?

post #10 of 10
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Just to follow up here...I managed to track down some Grand Prix's and had them fitted the other day. They feel nice and snug, but not yet had the chance to try them on snow.

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