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Ski Bus Tragedy

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Pretty appalling. When I lived in San Diego, I was advised early on to try very hard not to let a bus or truck from Mexico follow me downhill in the mountains. They were noted for having bad brakes. It sounds like the bus company should not have been allowed into the US.
post #3 of 15

Quite interesting. The company involved is InterBus. Perhaps its a different InterBus, but here in Costa Rica they are a major shuttle bus service. They have a good reputation here for maintaining their fleet. Although Costa Rica's vehicle restrictions are much stricter than Mexico (and possibly even the US in some ways). 

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That's 2 major Bus wrecks in a month. Surprised this hasn't happened before many times. The Buses are unregulated and the drivers are dangerous because the FMCR and LE turn a blind eye. These transportation companies need to be scrutinized like the Class 8 trucks.

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This has been the major news story down here for two days now. I definitely won't let one of them follow me down the mountain roads from here on out. They drive like idiots on the freeways, too, and ALWAYS in the carpool lane. I do my best to get WAY ahead of them.

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Don't they have runaway truck ramps out in that area?  It really does sound like they fried up their brakes.  Just a tragic reminder to use the transmission to help ease stress on your brakes as needed.

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They do, just not in that particular area. If I recall correctly, there is ONE on that highway and it's up higher on the hill from where this crash occurred.

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Originally Posted by contesstant View Post

 and ALWAYS in the carpool lane.

 

Isn't that what HOV lanes are for?    I don't know the specifics of this case or the rules in CA.   But my wife is the president of a bus company.  Our buses go to the state safety lane twice a year and if you have a decent sized fleet, 22 violations is nothing.  Some of the inspectors nit pick some pretty small stuff.

 

Statistically,  I'd be much more concerned about riding in a 15 passenger van than I would a bus.

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Buses can use the HOV lanes legally. That's a good thing. However, 2 inspections a year is not nearly enough. It should be 2 times a month or better yet scale inspections like the Class 8 trucks. Do the drivers or cert. mech. do a daily pre-trip inspection? I am curious to what nit picking violations would be. I know I'd never get on a Bus. Agree the smaller passenger buses have a terrible accident history. Mainly because of unqualified/inexperienced drivers.

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A greenhorn driver can burn up a set of brakes in a very short time driving in the mountains.  Weelky inspections couldn't prevent that scenario.

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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post

A greenhorn driver can burn up a set of brakes in a very short time driving in the mountains.  Weelky inspections couldn't prevent that scenario.


That's why I said LO look the other way.You can go down a grade slow many times. But you only go down a grade too fast once. Inspections are for mechanical issues. A inexperienced driver will glaze the brakes over once they get hot. An Inspection can see this. Unfortunately you can not fix stupid so you are right. These Buses are not very heavy (45k loaded) there really no excuse to bail off the top of a big hill @ +50mph.

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 better yet scale inspections like the Class 8 trucks. Do the drivers or cert. mech. do a daily pre-trip inspection?

 

Of course, buses are pretripped every day and they're way safer than trucks. 

 

Scale inspections are more about income generation than safety, IMHO. 

post #13 of 15

Thanks for that info. I am not familiar with Comm. Bus Transportation Industry. Just what I use to see on the road. There are alot of dangerous trucks on the road including the drivers. Nothing like rolling in a Port of Entry and get the Red light. Cross all your T's and dot your I's. It seems like it's the Drivers not so much the Bus then.

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Shouldn't the drivers inspect the vehicle themselves ? Like cdl drivers do ?
post #15 of 15

The signature on the first post is quite ironic in the context of the post.

 

 

 

hopefully events like that will lead to change and safer buses...

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