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Need advice on versatile all mountain skis

post #1 of 13
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Having recently found this site, it appears that there is a great deal of useful information that can be obtained. My particular interest is finding out what all mountain ski may work best for me. I am 61 years old, 5' 7" tall, and weigh 145 pounds. I have only been skiing for about 10 years, have had no lessons, and, the only ski area within 300 miles of my home has a whopping 400' vertical drop. Needless to say, the availability of ski equipment, and good advice, is hard to find. Even with all of these limitations, I consider myself a fairly competent skier. I typically travel to Montana each year and ski at places like Bridger Bowl, Whitefish, Discovery, and Montana Snowbowl. I have also skied at Sweitzer, Silver Mtn., and Blacktail, in Idaho. I am able to ski most, if not all, of the black runs at these areas. I have skied a couple of double blacks, although very slowly, and, the snow conditions have to be ideal for me. I prefer to ski off piste (crud, bumps, trees, powder, etc.), but, I still want a ski that would be manageable on piste. The skis that I have been using since I started 10 years ago are the Atomic Beta Carv C9+. These skis have been okay for the icy, man made snow that I ski on here in the midwest, but, they are definitely not okay for the type of skiing I do when I travel to the west. Some of the skis that I have read about on this site have interested me, so I thought I would get some opinions on whether or not they would work for me. It does not matter to me if they are not well suited for the conditions I encounter here at home. 

 

The following, in no particular order, are some of the skis that I thought may work best for me:

 

1. Dynastar Outland 87

2. Elan 888 ALU

3. Rossignol Experience 88

4. Nordica Steadfast

5. Atomic Crimson Nomad

 

I can get a pretty good deal on a Dynastar Outland 80 right now if you think that would be a good fit, but, I'm concerned that the waist size may not be enough.

 

I would also be interested in hearing what ski length may be best for me as well.

 

Hopefully, I have given enough useable information that will enable you to lead me in the right direction. Any input will be appreciated. Thanks.

post #2 of 13

Of your liste, love the Steadfast: good grip, can carve, light and fast for a 90 mm and good in bumps and trees...

post #3 of 13
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Thanks. I would also be interested in other skis that I have not listed, if anyone has recommendations.


Edited by JayJoe - 2/2/13 at 9:00pm
post #4 of 13

You have five very good skis on your list.

 

Outland 87: Probably the most versatile of the bunch and very good on all but the very hardest snow.

Elan 888: Very damp and smooth, not exceptionally nimble.

Rossi 88: Very good grip, but a lot of sidecut and flare in the tail which makes them cumbersome in bumps for some.

Nordi Steadfast: Also versatile like the Dynastar, better grip, a little less forgiving

Atomic Crimson: Best grip of the bunch, very stable, wants a pretty skilled pilot.

 

Regardless of model, a 170-173 ish ski will be a good choice.

 

SJ

post #5 of 13
Small niggle. Blacktail is in Montana, I can see it from the top of Whitefish.

Back to the topic...
post #6 of 13
Thread Starter 

Thanks for your input.

post #7 of 13
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

Small niggle. Blacktail is in Montana, I can see it from the top of Whitefish.

Back to the topic...

Thanks for the correction. It's been a while since I've been there.

post #8 of 13
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Originally Posted by SierraJim View Post

You have five very good skis on your list.

 

Outland 87: Probably the most versatile of the bunch and very good on all but the very hardest snow.

Elan 888: Very damp and smooth, not exceptionally nimble.

Rossi 88: Very good grip, but a lot of sidecut and flare in the tail which makes them cumbersome in bumps for some.

Nordi Steadfast: Also versatile like the Dynastar, better grip, a little less forgiving

Atomic Crimson: Best grip of the bunch, very stable, wants a pretty skilled pilot.

 

Regardless of model, a 170-173 ish ski will be a good choice.

 

SJ

What are your thoughts on the Dynastar Outland 80. Thanks for your input.

post #9 of 13
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What are your thoughts on the Dynastar Outland 80. Thanks for your input.

 

Less versatile for your desired usage than the 87.

 

SJ

post #10 of 13

Which Outland 80 are you considering (there are 3! - 80, 80XT and 80 Pro)?  Is this going to replace the Atomic for local skiing?  If so, a narrower ski considering your weight is not a bad choice.  I am very close to your height and weight and have had a pair of Dynastar Legend 8000 (81 waist) for a number of years and find they have plenty of float for me.   

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Originally Posted by JimH View Post

Which Outland 80 are you considering (there are 3! - 80, 80XT and 80 Pro)?  Is this going to replace the Atomic for local skiing?  If so, a narrower ski considering your weight is not a bad choice.  I am very close to your height and weight and have had a pair of Dynastar Legend 8000 (81 waist) for a number of years and find they have plenty of float for me.   

Considering the Outland 80, not the XT or Pro. I won't rule out the possibility of using them here, but, I"m more concerned with getting something that meets my needs when I ski in the west. I could continue using my Atomics for skiing here. My concern with the 80 is that it may not provide enough float, but, it sounds like that isn"t much of a problem for you. I don't know much about skis, so there may be other reasons for not going with the Outland 80. I'm certainly open for suggestions about other skis that may work for me. Any insight you can provide would be appreciated. Thanks.

post #12 of 13

What about the Blizzard Bonafide?  They're apparently very popular and are touted as versatile.  I'm thinking about getting one (if I can find it).

post #13 of 13

Demo the Salomon Enduro xt 850, pretty much rips everywhere.  

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