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post #1 of 28
Thread Starter 

Hi all. I'm new to the Epic site. The general discussion is very good but I wonder if there might be a sub-forum that talks more exclusively about seniors--gear, training, recovery etc. Don't want to ghetto-ize myself, but sometimes the issues are a little different. Maybe a thread works just as well. Thanks for any guidance.

post #2 of 28

I like the idea. I would be a regular on an active seniors forum, for the reasons you've cited.
 

post #3 of 28

I'd be interested in reading examples of a senior topic that might be posted which can not easily fit in this forum?    

 

Generally I am not a fan of typical web board that divide up into a long list of different sub-forums.  There is certainly a need for several main general forums if they have a critical mass of activity which is the case at epicski.  However web boards with lots of forums tend to have several forums with little activity.   Members visiting such sub-forums immediately notice stale dates and tend to not return or post. The result is a bunch of stale threads in sub-forums that become infrequently visited out of sight and out of mind.   Who wants to post to a thread started 2 months ago and have to wait another month before anyone else responds?   

 

If one starts a senior oriented thread in this main forum where most members start topics, an issue is the thread will quickly be pushed down the stack off the front page, out of sight, out of mind.  Conversely if a thread is posted in a special sub forum where there are few threads at all, the thread will maintain visibility but initially will have few responses because most members of web forum boards do not bother to regularly check what is going on beyond a main general forum.  However the same thread posted in a general forum is likely to at least initially have many more responses simply because it will have greater visibility when it is fresh.  The result if posted in a general forum is one will initially have more posts responding to a topic but later on less as the thread title gets pushed down the listing stack.  Although a person might Search with a key word "Senior", the truth is few do in part because forum search engines tend to be mediocre to the extent using Google or Yahoo to seach on a web forum site often is more productive. 

 

So here is a better solution for web forum structuring in general.  Members ought to start such thread topics in one of the main general forums and select from a pop down category list of secondary forums where a topic will later say after a month from first posting will be moved to.  The secondary forums would have a warning message at top that threads cannot be initially posted in such but rather in one of the main general forums.  Thus in the main forums there would be a usual Title Field to enter a text string.   Once a Title was entered a menu pop up window would automatically open with a list of secondary forums.  Since for many topics, no secondary forum might be appropriate, there would need to be a default NONE selection at the top of the list.

post #4 of 28

The posting psychology is a little thick for me, but there is one burning question that immediately comes to mind no matter where the issue resides:  What is the specific age of initial senior-hood - 60? 65? 70?  The local Tahoe resorts are all over the  map on senior discounts (Squaw is 70 nonono2.gif). And does Sainthood follow senior-hood?

post #5 of 28
Isn't all EpicSki a senior forum? :-)
post #6 of 28
Thread Starter 

First, yes. Sainthood comes next. (Unless you're there already.) I always go with 50 as the obvious bright line, mostly because AARP tells me it's so. And in response to dave-SSS, I'm not necessarily proposing a new thread or sub-forum. Just wondered if there was one here already.

post #7 of 28

We haven't created a subforum for seniors, but we have a lot of members that are well over 50, and a number of folks in their 70s and 80s.  The need for such a forum is more apparent to me as I approach 60 and haven't been able to pursue a lifestyle where I ski all the time.  I don't have the physical ability to endur the rigors of moguls, and my tolerance for "dropping in" is not where it once was.   Injury is actually something I think about.

 

To say the least, younger skiers don't understand it, are generally intolerant of those they perceive less physically enabled than they are, and you see a lot of insulting posts on the forum for those that won't suck it up and act 20 years old.   Maybe worth more thought.

post #8 of 28

I'm 68 and very possibly just weird but I don't really see a need for a sub-forum for "older" skiers.  There are some people on here who call themselves old and they're only 40.  Sheesh!

post #9 of 28
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Originally Posted by RobertFalfa View Post

... Maybe a thread works just as well.

this

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We haven't created a subforum for seniors, but we have a lot of members that are well over 50, and a number of folks in their 70s and 80s.  The need for such a forum is more apparent to me as I approach 60 and haven't been able to pursue a lifestyle where I ski all the time.  I don't have the physical ability to endur the rigors of moguls, and my tolerance for "dropping in" is not where it once was.   Injury is actually something I think about.

 

To say the least, younger skiers don't understand it, are generally intolerant of those they perceive less physically enabled than they are, and you see a lot of insulting posts on the forum for those that won't suck it up and act 20 years old.   Maybe worth more thought.

 

as a member of bikeforums.net (which has a 50+ forum) , getting age related stuff seems just a way of segregating than integrating - makes for less understanding between the 'segments'. And the geriatric side of life can be froth with handwringing.

 On Epic, the forums seem well formed - injury - see the fitness/injury/recovery forum.  All the forums seem to work well. Those of us who are old coots, seem to stand out well enough an get points across, sometimes in a well-worn humorous fashon.

 

as for intolerance, this IS the interweb, and nothing much seems all that real anyway. I mean, one great side of 'old' is that the skin gets pretty tough, and a lot of water can roll off an old duck's back, if you let it....  I mean, interweb bullying just doesn't seem to be a problem for/from the geezer/ette crowd ???

I find intolerant youngsters to be a real hoot!  funny stuff!

personally a younger view, without an overwhelming influence of lace-up boots/Raichle redhots/lange black liner/Stein Erickson/freedoggers/fartbags (I still LUV mine).... yadda,yadda,yadda ... is often well worth the read/entertainment value.

 

geezer forum?  just imagine 'Apres' if it was only a 50+ crowd...

post #10 of 28

There is a thead, Skiing over 50 . It had some posts, and that's years old not mph.

post #11 of 28
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Originally Posted by Cirquerider View Post

We haven't created a subforum for seniors, but we have a lot of members that are well over 50, and a number of folks in their 70s and 80s.  The need for such a forum is more apparent to me as I approach 60 and haven't been able to pursue a lifestyle where I ski all the time.  I don't have the physical ability to endur the rigors of moguls, and my tolerance for "dropping in" is not where it once was.   Injury is actually something I think about.

 

To say the least, younger skiers don't understand it, are generally intolerant of those they perceive less physically enabled than they are, and you see a lot of insulting posts on the forum for those that won't suck it up and act 20 years old.   Maybe worth more thought.

 

Enough of that old man. biggrin.gif

 

 

 

 

All kidding aside, seniors or those rapidly approaching that number make up a sizable part of both our community here and the larger skiing community in general. I think it would be difficult however, to make a senior forum. Then you end up with such a random smattering of posts on subjects ranging from gear, injuries, exercises, techniques, etc. that it would be better discussed in the designated area for this forum. I don't think they are going to miss any participation by seniors by being posted there because a good chunk of our most regular and prolific posters are shall we say less young. 

post #12 of 28

Many on the forum are younger skiers, some in their prime.  Others, like myself, are decades past prime and also have significant deficiencies due to a rare muscle disease.  I cannot ski ultra steeps, race, ski bumps and trees any longer without taking unnecessary risk of injury but I still can ski well on groomed runs or moderate powder.  Although I cannot ski as I once did I think my enjoyment is even greater today than 40 years ago knowing that I have recovered from being quadriplegic and that I don't have that many years left to ski.  No time to waste.  I had to define a new normal for myself 7 years ago and not just for skiing. 

 

Many seniors have not had the challenges I have had but still have a diminished capacity to do the things they once did...but still enjoy skiing.  Our challenges and perspectives are different than someone in their 20s or 30s who are invicible and will take much greater risks.  Although I still ski pretty fast, the minute conditions deteriorate I slow down.  Sort of a wimp, but a skiing wimp.

 

What age do we consider someone a senior?  AARP says 50.  I think 60 is a benchmark age.  70, there are not so many of us skiing and those in their 80s or more are my heroes.  Most of my contemporaries have long given up the sport. Those of us who remain have different attitudes and challenges but still enjoy skiing on modified terms.  One nice thing about skiing is that some areas give discounts and some even give free lifts.  A nice gesture to those of us who built the ski industry over the past 60-70 years.

 

It would be nice if more seniors on the forum were able to connect.  We might have mellowed with age, illness, and injury but for many us the best of skiing is yet to come.

 

Bill

post #13 of 28

A seniors group would be an easy way to connect.  Basically, just form a senior social group.  Subscribers to that group get new updates posted on their home page.  I think it would actually work better than a forum.

post #14 of 28

Is joining mandatory or voluntary??? I don't THINK I'm old..............

post #15 of 28

John,

 

You will know when you are old........it kind of sneaks up on you and all of sudden you are thinking...."where did all those years go.?"  "Who is that old guy in the mirror?"  If you have kids, you might recognize it in your kids.  Ours are all around 50 now and beginning to complain about this and that....deja vu.

 

But old doesn't mean you can't ski or have fun, it is just a little toned down.  Still fun though. 

 

Bill

post #16 of 28

Isn't this the seniors forum for TGR?

 

BK

post #17 of 28
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Originally Posted by mtcyclist View Post

I'm 68 and very possibly just weird but I don't really see a need for a sub-forum for "older" skiers.  There are some people on here who call themselves old and they're only 40.  Sheesh!

 

It's not the years, it's the mileage, MtCyclist.  We've all seen some ~40 and some even younger that had some seriously hard mileage under their belts.

 

I agree with you, though, it seems the older crowd is very well-represented on Epic as it is.  

I could be wrong, but it's the sub-30 category that seems to be in the minority hereabouts.  In fact, maybe there should be a "Young-un" sub-forum instead...but with a better name maybe. 

post #18 of 28
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Originally Posted by davluri View Post

There is a thead, Skiing over 50 . It had some posts, and that's years old not mph.

Thanks for pointing this out davluri--except I couldn't find it when I searched. Again, I'm not advocating anything here...and I'm not sure who qualifies as a senior...I just thought it might be helpful to hear what others are thinking and doing. For example, somewhere (maybe on Trip Advisor?) I saw a story on the best resort for seniors. (Mt. Baldy, if memory serves.) It would be interesting to hear what people thought were important criteria for older skiers (and yeah, it might be the Apres) and which resorts did the best job of providing it.

 

For me it's mostly about the discounts, and a nice assortment of blues/blue-blacks. 

post #19 of 28

Well, I'm 63 and here is what I think about a senior forum, um, ah, I forgot what I was going to say...

 

At any rate, the best part about being this age is that I can take off to go skiing whenever I want.  In fact, FatWife and I are heading up to Purgatory in about a half hour to enjoy a beautiful sunny afternoon on the slopes!
 

post #20 of 28

I'm 59. When I get on a lift and the lifty calls me "sir" I really dislike it because at the time I'm not feeling much like a "sir,"  and while I'm too old for it, I actually feel more like "dude." 

 

There are issues that older skiers have that younger skiers don't have yet, but that seems like it can be easily handled through individual threads.  An entire section of the site devoted to old fart issues just doesn't seem needed to me.

post #21 of 28
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... the best of skiing is yet to come.

 

Bill

 

Jan 31, 2013

 

Hi bsimeral:

 

A BIG Amen to thaticon14.gif.

 

Think snow,

 

CP

post #22 of 28
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I'm 59. When I get on a lift and the lifty calls me "sir" I really dislike it because at the time I'm not feeling much like a "sir,"  and while I'm too old for it, I actually feel more like "dude." 

There are issues that older skiers have that younger skiers don't have yet, but that seems like it can be easily handled through individual threads.  An entire section of the site devoted to old fart issues just doesn't seem needed to me.



I've been joking, "You don't have to call me 'sir' just because I have white hair and whiskers,' whenever someone addresses me as, "Sir", but a lot of lifties have been advised to call all folks above school age "Sir" and "Ma'am", so I don't generally respond that way anymore. It bothers me more that so many people now now say "No problem" when thanked rather than "You're welcome."
post #23 of 28

It would be a great vehicle to see what I posted the previous day since both knees and my memory are now gone. Of course I consider  the virtues of old age along the same lines as the joys of skiing in snowguns and the one thing I don not like to be remined of.

post #24 of 28
I think it's a good idea, if only for exchange of info about discounts and perks. And I can't wait for Phil to become eligible.
post #25 of 28

A senior skiers forum sounds like a good idea. 

 

 

Of course, to make it true to life, the people who post there will be expected to be there every day right when the forum opens, post for an hour or so,  and then go do something else.

post #26 of 28
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I think it's a good idea, if only for exchange of info about discounts and perks. And I can't wait for Phil to become eligible.

I can't wait for the day that Philpug turns 50 and the resulting crap that he going to have to live with on our Forum. Phil, be forewarned, we are coming for you!

post #27 of 28
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A senior skiers forum sounds like a good idea. 

 

 

Of course, to make it true to life, the people who post there will be expected to be there every day right when the forum opens, post for an hour or so,  and then go do something else.

 

LOL!

 

Or just hang out drinking coffee, talking all at the same time, and not posting at all...

post #28 of 28
Thread Starter 

I did a quick search on best skiing for seniors and didn't find the reference to Mt. Baldy. Did find this from HuffPo. Not bad. The obligatory reference to the Bumps for Boomers school at Aspen and a few other places that are trying to woo back the age group that built the industry. None of this really convinces me to go to any of these places, but it's worth a read:

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/01/best-ski-resorts-for-senior-skiers_n_2165499.html

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