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post #1 of 25
Thread Starter 

I'm no racer, but when I get to Whistler next week, I want to ski the Dave Murray Downhill.

 

It this trail set up like race course?  I notice that they are not that many intersecting trails. 

 

Anyone been on it?  Is it a fun trail?

post #2 of 25

No, no one has been on it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Much like the Hannenkamm (sp?) downhill run, when done recreationally, it's a fun and not terribly difficult run. If you were going to go flat out, well the turns and compressions would make it into a whole different world with full-up pucker at a bunch of different places.

post #3 of 25
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Originally Posted by kermit88 View Post

I'm no racer, but when I get to Whistler next week, I want to ski the Dave Murray Downhill.

 

It this trail set up like race course?  I notice that they are not that many intersecting trails. 

 

Anyone been on it?  Is it a fun trail?

 

No, its just a run...but good fun.  Try to pick early morning, on a "hard snow" day....its a great high speed cruiser....be warned thou, while most is a "blue", you will be amazed at just how steep some sections are.

post #4 of 25

I've only been to WB once--last year and the Dave Murray was partly groomed, but the lower part was not--good sized moguls.  You could bail at the start of that section easily enough.  Other than the history it's a pretty ordinary trail--the hard part for me was finding the start of it.  

post #5 of 25

Did this a few years back.  It's a fun run, but nothing special.  It's fun to do runs like this where world cup skiers have been down.  Did the downhiil at Snowasin and the Birds of Prey at Beaver Creek also.  Patroller told me that during the Olympics they were doing the top of Snowbasin at over 60 mph.  I traversed it and couldn't imagine going straight down.  That's why I'm not an olympian.

post #6 of 25

I've actually skied on Dave Murray, Birds of Prey, and the Strief (hahnenkamm), which is kind of funny to me. None is that hair-raising until you think about going straight down. We were on the Strief about a week after the DH had been run, and it was still very very icy in the middle. I had no edges at the time, and I went down once while slowly traversing across the slope. Felt like a dork, but it was slick!!

post #7 of 25
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I've actually skied on Dave Murray, Birds of Prey, and the Strief (hahnenkamm), which is kind of funny to me. None is that hair-raising until you think about going straight down. We were on the Strief about a week after the DH had been run, and it was still very very icy in the middle. I had no edges at the time, and I went down once while slowly traversing across the slope. Felt like a dork, but it was slick!!

Idk the Brink on Birds of Prey is pretty intimidating and as you said if you ski them relatively soon after the race they are SLICK. I fell trying to stop on birds of prey once(edges slid out) and must have gone 150 yards moving about 2 mph. It was the most frustrating thing I was barely moving and just could not stop.   

post #8 of 25

I've skied the Dave Murray and the Birds of Prey and indeed the brink is very intimidating.  Other than that, with good grooming these are flat out fun steep runs.  I remember one particularly steep section of the Dave Murray was moguled when I was there and likely this section was something that most of the racers jumped over during a real race.

post #9 of 25

I've skied the Olympic downhill course at Squaw, from the top of Siberia, to the bottom of the Mountain run--that would be a steep straightline at the top, otherwise pretty flat. I made more turns, but on the other hand the racers didn't have to contend with the crowds on the mountain run. Ladies' Downhill is a lot steeper on average, but I suppose they had quite a few gates. Of course they used to run the National Championship downhill from the top of National Chute in the Palisades, which is a VERY steep straightline.

post #10 of 25
Thread Starter 

Thanks everyone -  I'll give my report when I get back.

 

Now let's hope for snow on the entire mountain!

post #11 of 25
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Originally Posted by oldgoat View Post

the hard part for me was finding the start of it.  

 

I find that's always the challenge--finding the runs! Dave Murray starts at the top of the garbanzo chair. 

post #12 of 25

For a nice warm-up run in the morning and to avoid gondola lines (if it's busy), I like to take the Fitz and Garbanzo chairs, then ski Upper Dave Murray to the Red chair. Takes a bit longer to get to the top compared to the gondola, but I can't stand it when I get packed into the gondola like sardines. Plus I get in a solid, high speed cruising run right away, and the run and chairs are usually pretty empty in the morning.

 

Have fun at Whistler!

post #13 of 25
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Originally Posted by skt07 View Post

For a nice warm-up run in the morning and to avoid gondola lines (if it's busy), I like to take the Fitz and Garbanzo chairs, then ski Upper Dave Murray to the Red chair. Takes a bit longer to get to the top compared to the gondola, but I can't stand it when I get packed into the gondola like sardines. Plus I get in a solid, high speed cruising run right away, and the run and chairs are usually pretty empty in the morning.

 

Have fun at Whistler!

 

I get pissed when I pay $100+ for a lift ticket and the nitwit on the Gonjola loading expects me to stand for a half hour to get to the top.

post #14 of 25
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I get pissed when I pay $100+ for a lift ticket and the nitwit on the Gonjola loading expects me to stand for a half hour to get to the top.

 

Having to stand with people's skis and poles all around you and nothing to hold onto sucks, but the little bench is not much better. I remember riding the Village gondola when it first opened, and after the initial excitement died down, my immediate next thought was "WTF is wrong with these seats???"

 

Even the original creekside gondola from the 60's had proper seats.

post #15 of 25
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Originally Posted by skt07 View Post

 

Having to stand with people's skis and poles all around you and nothing to hold onto sucks, but the little bench is not much better. I remember riding the Village gondola when it first opened, and after the initial excitement died down, my immediate next thought was "WTF is wrong with these seats???"

 

Even the original creekside gondola from the 60's had proper seats.

 

Yes, I rarely go down to Creekside, but when taking a bud on Peak to Creek, and getting on a gondola with three padded bun cutouts per side, it was certainly a nice change from the half-a-cheek Whistler Gondola.

post #16 of 25

Guys, you can have comfy seats, but significantly less uphill capacity. If you're ok with even more waiting for a ride up, then you can complain all you want and you'd have a legitimate beef. Speaking only for myself, I'd just rather get up the hill. It's leaning against a pad rather than sitting in a seat for a few minutes at the beginning of the day... a very VERY first world problem,.

post #17 of 25
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Guys, you can have comfy seats, but significantly less uphill capacity. If you're ok with even more waiting for a ride up, then you can complain all you want and you'd have a legitimate beef. Speaking only for myself, I'd just rather get up the hill. It's leaning against a pad rather than sitting in a seat for a few minutes at the beginning of the day... a very VERY first world problem,.

 

LOL. Yes I realize why certain ergonomic decisions were made, and the comment was made partially in jest. Anyone who remembers the original Creekside gondola will know how uncomfortable it was in spite of the "proper seats" (there's one hanging by the Village gondola for anyone who has no idea what I'm talking about).

post #18 of 25

Good luck taking Dave Murray at "moderate" speeds during a weekend.  There are a couple spots where the trail steepens and there can be a few "surprise" skiers/boarders sitting just beneath a roll and they're not really visible until you're on top of them...

 

And to avoid the lines (and uncomfortable "seats") on the Whistler chair...take Blackcomb gondi (then Excelerator and Jersey Cream) and head over to throw down a couple of laps on 7th before the crowds show.  You can get some good speed taking Panorama or Cloud Nine from top to bottom...Then take P2P across if you have a hankering for Dave Murray...

post #19 of 25

New gondola cabins on the village gondola is part of the next capital investment I believe. Hopefully in 2-5 years? Who knows, depends on (profitable) skier visits I guess. I rarely ride the thing unless I am touring and coming out singing pass, otherwise I always park creekside or go to Blackcomb. The standing doesn't bother me, it's more not being able to get gear in/out of pack easily and being crammed against people.

 

Anyway, snow conditions are a lot better after the ~25cm late last week, looks like more snow could be inbound on Saturday. Snow depth is definitely well under average for this time of year, but coverage is still fine in the resort. I don't think they groom the entire Dave Murray except for races, the pitch above Red is a mogul field, but you can avoid it on a cat track. There's another mogul field below Red with a cat track to avoid it on the right side.

post #20 of 25
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Originally Posted by markojp View Post

Guys, you can have comfy seats, but significantly less uphill capacity. If you're ok with even more waiting for a ride up, then you can complain all you want and you'd have a legitimate beef. Speaking only for myself, I'd just rather get up the hill. It's leaning against a pad rather than sitting in a seat for a few minutes at the beginning of the day... a very VERY first world problem,.

 

It's not a "few minutes" it's a half hour, with boots on and full gear, and when crowded it's a PITA to loosen zippers and whatnot to chill down a bit, open a window etc. And for only $110 you get to "enjoy" this.

 

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Originally Posted by gramboh View Post

New gondola cabins on the village gondola is part of the next capital investment I believe. Hopefully in 2-5 years? Who knows, depends on (profitable) skier visits I guess. I rarely ride the thing unless I am touring and coming out singing pass, otherwise I always park creekside or go to Blackcomb. The standing doesn't bother me, it's more not being able to get gear in/out of pack easily and being crammed against people.

 

Anyway, snow conditions are a lot better after the ~25cm late last week, looks like more snow could be inbound on Saturday. Snow depth is definitely well under average for this time of year, but coverage is still fine in the resort. I don't think they groom the entire Dave Murray except for races, the pitch above Red is a mogul field, but you can avoid it on a cat track. There's another mogul field below Red with a cat track to avoid it on the right side.

 

Next capital item is moving what is now Harmony chair to become the replacement Crystal chair (it'll start far lower), then make Harmony a 6 pack. Supposed to happen this coming summer (initially supposed to happen last summer)

post #21 of 25
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Originally Posted by snofun3 View Post

 

It's not a "few minutes" it's a half hour, with boots on and full gear, and when crowded it's a PITA to loosen zippers and whatnot to chill down a bit, open a window etc. And for only $110 you get to "enjoy" this.

 

 

I've ridden it many times... it seems like a 'few minutes' because we're usually looking out the cabin, catching up on life, telling jokes, making plans for the day, etc...  Having been a BC resident and now WA, if one plans, there's never a need to pay full fare for a day pass. I guess I'm just pretty happy to get a ride up the hill in the morning. Sure beats the living hell out of an infusion clinic... or skiing in FL for that matter.smile.gif

post #22 of 25

It's 22 minutes, and I agree, there are so many ways to get discount tickets there is no reason to pay the $99-$102 ticket window price (note: not $110). Even just buying on the W-B website is cheaper than buying at the window.

 

Dave Murray was the first black I ever skied. It's wide and not that steep for a black (at least relative to other places I ski). But a fun run for sure.

post #23 of 25
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Originally Posted by Christy319 View Post

It's 22 minutes, and I agree, there are so many ways to get discount tickets there is no reason to pay the $99-$102 ticket window price (note: not $110). Even just buying on the W-B website is cheaper than buying at the window.

 

OK, whatever you say: (it's $110 in $CDN, $112 USD).

 

 

  01/20/2013   Sun
 
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And shockingly, I have other things to do than save $10 on a lift ticket.

post #24 of 25
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Originally Posted by snofun3 View Post

OK, whatever you say: (it's $110 in $CDN, $112 ...

And shockingly, I have other things to do than save $10 on a lift ticket.

But standing in a cabin on the way up an amazing place is a very insignificant burden that most people would be happy to bear. It's a bit like royalty with the pea under the mattress thing in the big picture of life, no?
I'm happy just to have nice warm bed. wink.gif
post #25 of 25

If you don't qualify for an edge card (WA/Canada only) you can just buy discount tickets at the 7-11 in Squamish or a number of other places. Crystal/Harmony is a go for fall 2013 opening, I meant the village gondola cabins is the (likely) next phase after that although nothing is official yet.

 

Forecast is not improving day to day, looks like Stevens or Baker are the places to be, might have to drive south this weekend.

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