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BBR 8.9 is the easiest and most versitile of anything mentioned. It's not the popular choice but once you try it there's no going back.

I also like the BBR.  Yes, it is polarizing.  I'd definitely suggest demoing them first.  One thing:  I'm 5'9.5" barefoot and weigh  about 185, and I bought the 186cm.  At first I thought maybe I bought too long a ski for me, but then I read on another forum about someone who figured out to mount the bindings behind the factory recommended line (I don't recall how much).  His rationale: when you are on the ski, the front tips come up & off the piste so that the factory recommended line is to far forward for his taste.   If you get the BBRs, consider either the next step down in length, or possibly an adjustable binding such as the marker griffon schizo so you can play around with the binding location while you're on the mountain.   

post #32 of 35
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for a pow ski, the rev 105 is also ski w/ softer flex and good shape, good for short radius turns in the soft snow lines.

This ^^^^. It seems to meet the bill for Whistler on days then there's been snow, deep sidecut but moderate flex, taper for pivoting, seems about right for Whistler's trees, which are open enough that the slightly wider/longer dimensions won't be a problem. Check out the reviews here, even some video as I recall. If it's not your cuppa tea, then something like the Hell n' Back or Kabookie or Head Rock n' Roll would also fit the bill. If you have the $$, the Kastle BMX98 is a great Whistler all-around. I'd avoid metal or too much lateral stiffness. 

post #33 of 35

After a lot of homework, some on this forum, I just got a pair of Blizzard Bushwackers 180cm for the same (see thread on steep/trees/bumps)... quick turning, tight spot trees/bump ski, and like them a lot after 3x out. I've had my share of high speed carvers, still do, but that's not my thing. I like steeps, bumps, and the woods, and the BW are very nimble, but still hold on edge. They are fun, light, lively, forgiving (no metal except under binding), and you ski whatever turn you want, rather than the ski telling you what it likes, and do surprisingly well in powder, while still only 88cm underfoot(key). My guess is they are the polar opposite of the Mantras.

post #34 of 35
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After a lot of homework, some on this forum, I just got a pair of Blizzard Bushwackers 180cm for the same (see thread on steep/trees/bumps)... quick turning, tight spot trees/bump ski, and like them a lot after 3x out. I've had my share of high speed carvers, still do, but that's not my thing. I like steeps, bumps, and the woods, and the BW are very nimble, but still hold on edge. They are fun, light, lively, forgiving (no metal except under binding), and you ski whatever turn you want, rather than the ski telling you what it likes, and do surprisingly well in powder, while still only 88cm underfoot(key). My guess is they are the polar opposite of the Mantras.

gotta say I luv this thread!

just came back from 3 days at Mammoth - was great variety of old snow to 6-10 of 'fresh'. This thread hits directly on a need an acquaintance has. Skied with him, most of one afternoon, and he's a good skier with solid technique, but always seems pressed and on the edge of comfort when he's off the groomers. But he luvs skiin the off-groomers stuff. He's skiin some older 170 elan shapers at some 70mm waist - I'm convinced (and told him as much) they hold him back greatly. He has the technique/skills to see a HUGE jump in the fun factor if he wasn't plowin a toothpick thru the tracked/bumped/variable/crud.

Groomers are a non-issue for him.

I've told him as much, but have been hard pressed to recommend him some ski models to look at, other than to say something '88 to 95' for his one All-Mtn ski. He's not a real hard charger but when pressed he doesn;t back off, a solid/steady skier - so what I like won't necessarily suit him well. Close to me at about 5' 10", 170 ish..

 

Recommendations like above, seem just the ticket. - mdcraig, can/would you qualify with your weight DIMS?

important thread - if you've found 'the right one', keep those recs comin !

 

Edit: also likin the welldone gear reviews on the Elan 888...


Edited by moreoutdoor - 1/30/13 at 11:07am
post #35 of 35

I'm 6'2" 200lbs, and while some may say I'd push the weight limit for the Bushwacker (again it's a light ski and has metal underfoot only) I sought that and it's very good for the tight, varied terrain that I'm skiing with it (which doesn't always qualify as a trail) It's not  always locked in the carve, but rather 'floaty' at the top/center of the turn, but then gradual carve as you need/lean into it. i.e. better ability to avoid unseen branches, change lines on bumps. I've always found going above 88-90cm, and you lose the edge to edge quickness, but then I haven't skied everything out there. 

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