Fall away one turns later. In your left hand turn with fall way to the right, the rise line moves to the right -out.
In general the rise line makes people wait to start the turn, as we want to start it too early.
There is the other issue of where on the rise line to start - how far up the line. The lower you go the better/ quicker you have to be and more force you have to deal with. Generally one starts high and moves down in training.
Here's an interview with a Usst development coach from 2010 that covers some of this.
edit: I see Atomicman posted that in the first page! Well, there you go. He's right about the concept and straight skis, this is not new!
It's also simple, and you get to sense it in your mind as if it's there - in gs. In slalom, sheesh everything happens so quickly.
One thing - you obviously cannot start everything at the rise line! The concept is that's when you're engaged on edge. Then the question is - which part of the ski? For gs, it would generally be the tip crossing the rise line, slalom the feet, but that also can vary. Aman, what say you on that?
I do think the video of Ted at Sochi, the first part where you see him from behind and above, shows the concept. He is skiing a low line which in the video looks like no big deal but obviously no one here could come close to it. If you pause it and see how low he starts the turn sometimes it's pretty amazing.
Look at the turn around 27 seconds, the right footer, (left turn),one with the under gate. Pause the video and use the arrows to move it slowly. Also the next left turn at approx 30secs. The left turn at 42secs also has a good perspective.
It's also fun to stop it and slomo it at the left turn on the steep at 1:06-7. It happens so quickly, but that's a huge pivot to make that turn. So smoothly done one hardly notices in real time! The next right turn gives a good shot at the rise line also.
The body has to be started moving well before that point, otherwise you are way late. How you do that, when you do that depends on knowing how you turn, what it takes, and the rhythm of the course. It's also why you have to look ahead. Hey if it was easy everybody would be good at it.
I'd also like to know for people who don't use the concept, what do they use? Especially now when only one panel gate is set on courses, no longer the outside panel is set often in gs or even junior super g from what i've seen.
Edited by Tog - 4/26/13 at 9:17am