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Were my bindings attached correctly?

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 

I just had new bindings mounted to my skis. I've noticed that the heel peice gets pushed back as I'm stepping in. I never really noticed before so I'm wondering if that's normal. How much pushing back (if any) is the right amount?

post #2 of 13

The amount that it's (apparently) pushed back when you step in will depend on the style of the binding, but all contemporary bindings  have some movement like you're describing.

post #3 of 13
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Originally Posted by Dirty Mac View Post

I just had new bindings mounted to my skis. I've noticed that the heel peice gets pushed back as I'm stepping in. I never really noticed before so I'm wondering if that's normal. How much pushing back (if any) is the right amount?

Hey Dirty Mac,

all should be fine. as you step into a ski binding they will all slide back. the amount they slide back is how they actually maintain a tension between you heel and binding, this is called the forward pressure. it is also where most people who don't know what they are doing when they mount a binding mess things up. There is actually a mark of some sort on all bindings that mark where the forward pressure should be. What kind of binding are you on? I will see if I can post a pic of where your forward pressure indicator is and where it should be. Some bindings will move a bit further than others. If you have a binding that does not slide back at all, it definately is not set correctly. If you are in Ft Lauderdale carry them them up to the Peter Glenn Ski and Sports on Oakland Park and get Eddie to check them out for you. He really does know his stuff and I would trust whatever he has to tell you, it will give you a little peace of mind. Tell him Rich sent you and that no mater what he thinks I am still the best skier on the mountain. 

post #4 of 13
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the help. I looked closely and found that my boot was hitting the back of the heel peice but wasn't hitting the tab on the bottom of the heel peice. I moved the binding back a couple of clicks and it seems to work the way I would expect. I'm still going to have a pro check it out though.

post #5 of 13
Definitely get them checked out before you ski on them. They are very likely set incorrectly now that you moved them. You should not just go by what seems to be what you would expect.
post #6 of 13
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Originally Posted by Dirty Mac View Post

Thanks for the help. I looked closely and found that my boot was hitting the back of the heel peice but wasn't hitting the tab on the bottom of the heel peice. I moved the binding back a couple of clicks and it seems to work the way I would expect. I'm still going to have a pro check it out though.

DO NOT SKI IN THAT BINDING until you have it checked out. Torn ACL's and MCL's are no joke and you probably just messed up the forward pressure. That is the complete problem with system bindings, they are too easy for someone who thinks they know what they are doing to adjust. Please Mac, don't figure out the hard way that you were wrong.

post #7 of 13

psssh, forward pressure forward smeasure. Yes it makes a difference ut most likely an incorrect forward pressure will cause the boot to release early not too late.

 

unlikely to result in torn acls, mcls but other injuries are a possibility.

post #8 of 13

All system or demo bindings will and should slide back when you click in. To my knowledge they all have some sort of markings related to BSL. So usually if you know your BSL you can set the binding correctly (keeping DIN out of the picture). 

 

What bindings are they?

post #9 of 13
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Originally Posted by rich1013 View Post
 If you are in Ft Lauderdale carry them them up to the Peter Glenn Ski and Sports on Oakland Park and get Eddie to check them out for you. He really does know his stuff and I would trust whatever he has to tell you, it will give you a little peace of mind.

Ted knows his stuff as well, and Dan Rossi, the chief tech, is also very capable. 

post #10 of 13
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Originally Posted by shoal007 View Post

psssh, forward pressure forward smeasure. Yes it makes a difference ut most likely an incorrect forward pressure will cause the boot to release early not too late.

unlikely to result in torn acls, mcls but other injuries are a possibility.

Correct forward pressure is absolutely critical for keeping you in the ski. The injuries from pre release can be every bit as bad or worse than not coming out of a binding.
post #11 of 13

yes they do! Great bunch of guys.

post #12 of 13
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Originally Posted by Bazzer View Post

Ted knows his stuff as well, and Dan Rossi, the chief tech, is also very capable. 

 

 

Great group of guys!

post #13 of 13
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Originally Posted by east or bust View Post

All system or demo bindings will and should slide back when you click in. To my knowledge they all have some sort of markings related to BSL. So usually if you know your BSL you can set the binding correctly (keeping DIN out of the picture). 

 

What bindings are they?

All bindings, not just system and demo bindings have a heel that slides back when you click in, as Trekchick and Rich pointed out many posts ago. And you cannot go by the BSL--the BSL setting gives a starting point but you still have to adjust for the correct forward pressure. I know from personal experience with Marker demos that to get the correct forward pressure often requires setting the bsl one or even two notches off.  

 

Dirty Mac--I will repeat what others have said. Unless you know how to read and set forward pressure and the forward pressure indicator on your binding shows the pressure to be correct do NOT ski with those bindings until they have been readjusted by a shop. I agree that most likely you have too little forward pressure which will make the binding more likely to release when it shouldn't, which is how I dislocated my shoulder (not from wrong forward pressure but I was set for level II rather than level III).  I do congratulate you on having the brains to ask.

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