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post #1 of 12
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Hi everyone,
Just joined, and thought I'd start off with a recent problem I have encountered. Just recently, one of my skis broke from the core tearing apart from inside the ski. The kind of skis I got are Atomic Blackeye TI 2011's, and I keep them well maintained. I noticed this problem two runs after a speed run I did down a trail from catching first chair. The ski was starting to bulge because snow was starting to get packed inside. Looking back on the stats from MOD Live and the Contour + camera, I hit speeds of 65 to 70 mph going down the trail which was pretty accurate. I brought it to the shop and the guy there said Apoxy should fix it (the section of where the edge connects to the ski, and the top portion was disconnected at the very front, and no exterior damage suggesting an impact was present. I didn't hit a rock or anything). When I went to the store I usually do business with, he said the core was torn apart and the ski was no good.
I don't know if speed caused this or if it just was a bad ski and prolonged pressure on the structural flaw caused this to eventually happen. Anyone else have this issue? Discuss.
post #2 of 12

pics of the damage? it wouldnt hurt to have the shop attempt to warranty the ski by calling atomic and see if they will accept it to be returned to be evaluated. if not, it may be epoxied. again, pics of the damage will only help to assess it.
 

post #3 of 12
When I go really fast (a large percentage of the speed of light) I get so heavy that my skis are torn apart. Breaking the sound barrier is also stressful on the skis.
Seriously, don't they pull your pass for going that fast out of a racecourse?
Speed does not automatically create load. Yesterday's bump set is more likely to have broken the ski. Something is amiss.
If you can't get a warranty ski, it may be possible to fix your ski. (Apoxy on your spellchecker) Epoxy might repair things. The core is not too strong so as long as you get enough epoxy into the damaged area, the core may be stronger after the repair. I have fixed waterskis with core issues like that. They just end up a bit heavier.
Damage to the skins is much harder to repair - get new skis.
Eric
post #4 of 12
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I forgot to get pictures of the skis, but I'm heading back to the shop today to pick up my other pair which was being tuned. I'll see if I can get photos of it while I'm there. But yes, there's no other explanation as to how the ski broke. The only thing I could think of was speed, but then again it doesn't make much sense for a ski to break that way unless it hits something. Never heard of Epoxy before, and the autocorrect on the iPhone doesn't help much. Also with the whole getting a ticket pulled thing, I've never had that happen. Plus, I was on first chair so there really was no one else on the trail. I'll see if I can bring up some photos of the damage sooner than later.
post #5 of 12
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Went to the store, and the skis were already sent out to Atomic for analysis so I couldn't get any pictures of the damage. It is still under warranty, but Atomic doesn't make these skis anymore and they are completely out of stock. They said it might be possible that I get 2013 or possibly 2014 atomic blackeye ti's. The problem with this is that I won these skis in a contest so there's no proof of purchase which is going to make this process pretty hard.
post #6 of 12

To send the skis back, the shop needed a "return authorization" number from HQ. If it were a 'no deal' deal, then the skis would have been handed back to you. Chances are very very good you'll have new sticks. If the shop moves a lot of Atomic product, I'd say your odds are about 110%.

post #7 of 12

65-70 mph on a pair of blackeyes? 

I would need a warranty on my bottom base layer.


Edited by KingGrump - 1/23/13 at 3:47pm
post #8 of 12
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Originally Posted by eleeski View Post

When I go really fast (a large percentage of the speed of light) I get so heavy that my skis are torn apart. Breaking the sound barrier is also stressful on the skis.
...... (Apoxy on your spellchecker) Epoxy might repair things........

 

Should try to avoid skiing black holes.....

post #9 of 12
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Originally Posted by markojp View Post

To send the skis back, the shop needed a "return authorization" number from HQ. If it were a 'no deal' deal, then the skis would have been handed back to you. Chances are very very good you'll have new sticks. If the shop moves a lot of Atomic product, I'd say your odds are about 110%.

 

I won the skis out in Vail, CO, but there was no confirmed date of purchase, although the store I go to often wants to help. I didn't hear about any return authorization when we were filling everything out, but the serial number was present on the back of the ski still. From what I'm hearing, it sounds like I may be getting next years model which is the 2014 skis.

 

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Originally Posted by KingGrump View Post

65-70 mph on a pair of blackeyes? 

I would need a warranty on my bottom base layer.


Well, that's what the stats on MOD Live showed along with the Contour + camera on Storyteller. Warranty is under investigation though. I thought most skis can take up to high speeds?

post #10 of 12

Sorry, I wasn't clear. If I was going 65-70 on my pair of blackeyes I would need a through cleaning of my bottom base layer. Just thought that a warranty claim would be less messy. 

I have several pairs of Atomics but I wouldn't take the blackeyes to a speed event. 

Perhaps you are a hell lot better skier than I am.

At my age I learn that - Don't believe everything you see. 

Have someone hit you with a radar gun to calibrate you speed and associated instruments. Make sure the radar gun is calibrated first.   


Edited by KingGrump - 1/23/13 at 9:41pm
post #11 of 12
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Originally Posted by KingGrump View Post

Sorry, I wasn't clear. If I was going 65-70 on my pair of blackeyes I would need a through cleaning of my bottom base layer. Just thought that a warranty claim would be less messy. 
I have several pairs of Atomics but I wouldn't take the blackeyes to a speed event. 
Perhaps you are a hell lot better skier than I am.
At my age I learn that - Don't believe everything you see. 
Have someone hit you with a radar gun to calibrate you speed and associated instruments. Make sure the radar gun is calibrated first.   

The bottom base layer seemed fine, it was on a groomed trail too so it was a thin layer of groomed powder ontop, but slick enough for fast conditions. What was the problem is that the core split in half inside one of the skis, and the bottom base layer was arched downward with the edge of the ski in the front left edge of the ski down to near where the protrack binding chassis is. it was barely hanging on with whatever the ski was sealed with when it was manufactured.

The radar gun would be dead on accurate, problem is, I don't have one.
post #12 of 12
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So I have finally heard back from Atomic, and they are sending me a 2014 Blackeye TI 181cm free of charge. They look pretty nice, cant wait to try these ones out.

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