Originally Posted by Eagles Pdx
None...that's the point. While big mountain skiing at the highest level is what many of middle level racers do when they move on from racing.
But the real point is there is no scale to judge big mountain skiers to each other much less to other skiers while that is the entire point of the World Cup Circuit, to determine who is the best over a ski seasons of racing in venues designed to test the basic skills of skiing. Again, having that basic skill set is why the racers can easily transition to any kind of skiing and succeed.
I don't care if you agree with me but I don't think you understand the points I'm trying to make.
1. Can you name any big mountain skiers who have TRIED to make the transition? Your point is bullshit unless you can name big mountain skiers who have tried and failed to make the transition. It doesn't matter that no one's gone from being a professional big mountain skier to the world cup if no one has tried.
2. The big mountain skiers were mid level because they didn't continue their race training but instead shifted to big mountain skiing before they spent a lot of time practicing. Also many of them spent less time focusing on their racing when they were involved in the program and while their team mates would spend their free time practicing they would free ski, Seth Morrison for example.
3. Racers can't easily transition and succeed. Only a couple have moved on to big mountain skiing (Nobis, Rahlves, etc.) and NONE ARE OR WERE at the very top of big mountain skiing, even after 5 or 6 years of experience. No one has gone to park as far as I know, I'm not sure about bumps. Are they good big mountain skiers? Yes. Are they capable of doing what the very best are doing? No. The question that I keep on asking you is if racers can transition as easily as you claim why are the world cup guys, even the ones who have transitioned such as Rahlves, not out skiing Hoji, Sage, etc. in the big mountains?
Racing at a high level doesn't test the basics, it tests a specific skill set. The basics are required to develop the high level skills, but the basics are not what decides the couple 100ths of a second that separates first from second, that comes from racing specific moves and tactics such as line choice within the course, the ability to ride very high edge angles (only achievable on groomers), picking up any possible speed while riding your bases in a tuck (when was the last time you saw a big mountain skier tuck?) wax and tune job, etc. Big mountain guys also develop the basics and then develop their specific skill set on top of that. I think that you're majorly underestimating the difficulty of what the big mountain guys are doing- its redicious to claim that running gates will somehow also teach you high level line selection, sluff management, air awareness, and speed control skills required to ski big mountain lines fluidly and well.