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post #31 of 63
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Originally Posted by maikur View Post

 There are far more out of control idiots on the mountain these days than there ever were "back in the day" .. ( although the snowboarders are a big reason for this, but not the ONLY one)

 

I think you just answered your own question.

post #32 of 63

My post is #31.  That puts us "over" on the 30 over/under for the thread locking wager.

 

Do I get a prize now for those who bet "over"??? yahoo.gif

post #33 of 63

Personally I wear a helmet as I have had multiple concussions, a couple while wearing a helmet playing hockey and a couple gotten on the playground when I was a kid. I don't want a wrong turn in the trees to end my skiing or hockey playing just yet.

post #34 of 63
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Originally Posted by maikur View Post

I am getting back into skiing after a decade long break. What I am seeing now are helmets everywhere. It used to be only little children and dorks everyone would laugh at would be wearing helmets.

 

Check out any pro hockey games lately?

 

I actually saw one of "The Gumper"s last pro games in goal sans the mask and helmet.

post #35 of 63

By the way, it's "do rag" not "dew rag."  From Hairdo.

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Originally Posted by maikur View Post


I remembered skiing as a rugged individualist activity ... Guys that looked like Willie Nelson, screaming "hee haw!", bombing straight down a double black diamond, with nothing more than a dew rag on their head.
 
post #36 of 63

Has our favorite troll, VitaminSki/PlugBootBlues/Boredat???, come back to life?th_dunno-1[1].gif

post #37 of 63
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post

Check out any pro hockey games lately?

 

I actually saw one of "The Gumper"s last pro games in goal sans the mask and helmet.

Back in the day, they were real men. Real men who ate a lot soup and other things that dont require chewing! smile.gif

post #38 of 63

You can still yell "Hee Haw" and charge down the mountain with a helmet on. Why does risking head injury make one a badass? I'm missing something… I'm a newb and won't argue on other topics, but I also work with the consequences of head injury, so I will proudly stand and say that the bigger and dorkier the helmet, the better :)

post #39 of 63
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Originally Posted by maikur View Post

I am getting back into skiing after a decade long break. What I am seeing now are helmets everywhere. It used to be only little children and dorks everyone would laugh at would be wearing helmets.

I remembered skiing as a rugged individualist activity ... Guys that looked like Willie Nelson, screaming "hee haw!", bombing straight down a double black diamond, with nothing more than a dew rag on their head.

What has happened? I guess the same mentality that has brought anal probes of old ladies at the airport is invading the mountain... Anything that will make us *feel* safer must be good?

But what have we lost as as a people and in terms of our individual spirit in the process?

And don't tell me that people are just smarter these days and have wised up... There are far more out of control idiots on the mountain these days than there ever were "back in the day" .. ( although the snowboarders are a big reason for this, but not the ONLY one)

 

"blah blah blah, I'm old and more manly and better at skiing than everyone...I don't need a helmet cause I'll never hit my head cause I'm super expert and even if I hit my head, my insane manliness means I won't care.  blah blah blah I'M MANLY AND YOU'RE ALL WIMPS, YEA!!" --maikur

 

on a more serious note though

  • helmets are warmer
  • helmets aren't sure things...but can reduce certain injuries from certain types of falls.  (minor concussions for example)
  • they look cool....yea yea I know you think they're dorky and lame.  But fashion has changed...this isn't 1975....sorry but your one piece pastel colored fart bag isn't in style anymore either.
post #40 of 63
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Originally Posted by JayT View Post

I hear ya!  And what's with these newfangled seat-belts everyone is wearing while in the car?  Back in the day we'd all just hop in, crack open a beer and take 'er easy... and nothing bad ever seemed to happen, right?


You gotta admit those early seat belt buckles made good bottle openers.

post #41 of 63
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Originally Posted by mtcyclist View Post

Has our favorite troll, VitaminSki/PlugBootBlues/Boredat???, come back to life?th_dunno-1[1].gif

 

Checked, no match.  Will continue to watch. There are about a half-dozen banned aliases so far. 

 

He must wear a helmet cause it's like Whack-A-Mole.

post #42 of 63

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Originally Posted by Cirquerider View Post

Checked, no match.  Will continue to watch. There are about a half-dozen banned aliases so far. 

 

He must wear a helmet cause it's like Whack-A-Mole.

 

Gotta give him credit for persistence,roflmao.gif

post #43 of 63

I acknowledge the loss on Over/Under

post #44 of 63

OK i'm going with over

 

Can anyone explain to me what's the difference between a ridiculous helment thread and a regular helment thread?

post #45 of 63
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Originally Posted by jimmy View Post

Can anyone explain to me what's the difference between a ridiculous helment thread and a regular helment thread?

 

I will try.  I believe our OP...The Terrific Troller...was exclaiming that helmets themselves are ridiculous, not necessarily helmet threads.

 

Since helmet threads are also generally recognized (wrongly, of course!!!) as ridiculous, I can understand why you might be thrown by what seems like a redundancy.

post #46 of 63

In an attempt to maybe provide SOMETHING constructive out of this trolling thread...

 

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What has happened? ... Anything that will make us *feel* safer must be good?

 

I wear a helmet because I read some studies showing that, if you survive a ski/snowboard accident, you are significantly less likely to have permanent brain injury if you were wearing a helmet.  Me?  I don't like permanent brain injury.  And while I can be careful personally, I can't 100% prevent someone else from being really stupid and hitting me really hard.  (Sorry, no link handy.  I think if you search for 'helmet research' on Epic there is an article listing a bunch of the relevant research studies.)

 

And before anybody starts, no, helmets don't do much in terms of how likely you are to survive an accident.  Most fatal ski collisions involve either much higher forces than a helmet can stop or massive bodily trauma.  Also not much good if you're buried in an avalanche or tree well.  But you can control those risks to a much greater extent.

 

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But what have we lost as as a people and in terms of our individual spirit in the process?

 

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Would skiing be better if we took away release bindings and rigid boots too?  Compound leg fractures are an important part of the sport!  Everybody's so coddled these days...  rolleyes.gif

 

On an intellectual level I can SORT OF understand the opposition to things like seat belt and motorcycle helmet laws.  I don't like government intrusion into people's private lives either, but automobile accidents have been one of the leading causes of death in America for decades -- doing things to make them safer is a public health issue.  The "freedom" to get much more severely injured in an accident is pretty lame, and the cost to society in increased medical care from such accidents is significant.

 

I'd be fine with letting adults opt out of these as long as their insurance providers are informed, they carry adequate health insurance, and they sign away their right to any kind of publicly funded medical care if they get in a car or motorcycle accident...

post #47 of 63

Down with helments, as opposed to helmets.biggrin.gif

 

And bring back bear trap bindings or at least old Marker Turntables and long thongs from the early 60's.eek.gif  I flew off an icy cat track at Snow Bowl in Montana in 1964 and ended up hanging upside down in a pine tree.  It isn't easy trying to undo a long thong when you're upside down and all your ski buddies are standing on the cat track laughing at you.

post #48 of 63
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Originally Posted by mtcyclist View Post

Down with helments, as opposed to helmets.biggrin.gif


And bring back bear trap bindings or at least old Marker Turntables and long thongs from the early 60's.
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  I flew off an icy cat track at Snow Bowl in Montana in 1964 and ended up hanging upside down in a pine tree.  It isn't easy trying to undo a long thong when you're upside down and all your ski buddies are standing on the cat track laughing at you.

The greatest tragedy in stories like this is that they almost always happened before everybody you know had a cell phone with a camera. biggrin.gif
post #49 of 63

When I got hit last year it knocked me out cold. My helmet has a visible scuff .. something hard hit it, maybe a ski or pole. Had it not been for the helmet I might be sucking food through a straw. 

post #50 of 63

I think the main reason experienced skiers still wear helmets is fear of being blasted from behind with zero warning.  Some of us negate that risk by being the fastest thing anywhere on the trail at any given time and never stopping anywhere between the lift corral and lift corral.  Tough to hit a moving target, and if you really NEVER fall then you won't hit your head on anything but the lift bar if you don't keep it tucked in when panicking folks yank it down with no warning.

 

That said, I still wear a helmet because I want to set an example for my kid, who isn't the fastest thing on the trail and very vulnerable to being blasted from behind by out of control idiots. rolleyes.gif

post #51 of 63

a sign that we need more snow.  A thread that puts the "G" in Gapic ski......... Oh well, it was going along so well for a while.  Lets discuss other important topics like boot gloves favorite spyder jackets, best model of ski totes and how many pairs of white cotton socks do you wear with your boots. 

post #52 of 63
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Originally Posted by Finndog View Post

a sign that we need more snow.  A thread that puts the "G" in Gapic ski......... Oh well, it was going along so well for a while.  Lets discuss other important topics like boot gloves favorite spyder jackets, best model of ski totes and how many pairs of white cotton socks do you wear with your boots. 

 

I dub thee "Buzzkill."  nonono2.gif

post #53 of 63

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post #54 of 63
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Originally Posted by Finndog View Post

a sign that we need more snow.  A thread that puts the "G" in Gapic ski......... Oh well, it was going along so well for a while.  Lets discuss other important topics like boot gloves favorite spyder jackets, best model of ski totes and how many pairs of white cotton socks do you wear with your boots. 

 

 

Dont forget the proper method for making a Texas Suitcase, and the appropriate technique for the Turkey Tuck.

 

 

DFTT  (Dont Feed The Troll)

post #55 of 63

Safety bar DOWN and NO listening to music!  Hang that phone up too!

post #56 of 63

HA Finny you back from AK? my friends in Canaan Valley are having the hardest time finding the boot gloves; also having a REALLY hard time finding the snow in the treees. Is this teh MJ thread??? oooops, sorry wrong thread carry on.

post #57 of 63
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post

Safety bar DOWN and NO listening to music!  Hang that phone up too!

Im glad I had a helmet on last weekend.  No warning from the mom and her 2 kids on the lift with me.  Granted I should have figured she was going to put the bar down, she just did it without warning and was a nice little wake-up call! 

post #58 of 63
The NY Times reported last week that in a desperate attempt to thrust himself back into the limelight, singer Willie Nelson recently fired his agent and began a furious campaign of trolling thousands of various internet forums and begging the question, "What would Willie Nelson do?" Or, speculating on what guys who used to look like him would do in whatever situation was being discussed at the time - anywhere from simple topics like pan-frying a mullet, to advanced concealment of liver spots. I will try and post a link if I can find the article.

Although another explanation is that the OP may have simply wandered off, disoriented and in shock, from a Dan Egan ski clinic after having merely witnessed Dan instructing a group of skiers learning to ski advanced terrain for the first time.

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Originally Posted by maikur View Post

I am getting back into skiing after a decade long break. What I am seeing now are helmets everywhere. It used to be only little children and dorks everyone would laugh at would be wearing helmets.

I remembered skiing as a rugged individualist activity ... Guys that looked like Willie Nelson, screaming "hee haw!", bombing straight down a double black diamond, with nothing more than a dew rag on their head....
post #59 of 63

I'm not seeing the Willie Nelson news story anywhere.  Or apparently Google has never come across it.

post #60 of 63
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Originally Posted by iskiIL View Post

Im glad I had a helmet on last weekend.  No warning from the mom and her 2 kids on the lift with me.  Granted I should have figured she was going to put the bar down, she just did it without warning and was a nice little wake-up call! 

i don;t understand why "no warning" is used in this context so often.  You are getting on a chairlift with a bar, expect it to come down and be surprised if it doesn;t, much easier on the helmet that way.

 

Or....perhaps adopt my method

 

We have a chair thats a bit unbalanced,  the bar complete with foot rest tends to comes down as soon as the chair gets loaded.  Got whacked by that ONCE.  Now I load  with poles extended to hold the bar up.  It does not come down until everyone is done shuffling.

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