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post #31 of 38
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quite a few questions. i'm sure the super7s will be fine. A lot of the "weird" feeling in these skis only manifests itself out of powder, so maybe it doesn't matter.

Between the Rocker 2 and the Gunsmoke, it's a tough choice. In true powder conditions, I have a blast on the R2s. But the Gunsmoke is a MUCH more traditional feeling ski, and I think will provide a more stable, versatile ride in Tahoe, where the conditions are frankly not so hot a lot of the time. I know the guns will be great, but if they don't give me that amazing, transcendent feeling of the R2's, I may just get a pair of them as well. Why the heck not, life is short.

 

I think I forgot to mention I did try the Automatic. Of all the skis I tried, this one felt the most out its element on packed snow. . Just not made for it, but I would love to get it on an Alaskan face some day maybe.For me it felt long and unwieldy and not user friendly at all. The same bumps and tight spots that the Gunsmoke were butter in were a awkward challenge on the autos.  Interesting that you liked it. That said, I had the good fortune to see Sage C-A carve on these on hardpack in Utah this year and it was quite a site. Now that dude has a real "race background," that was obvious, knees were practically hitting the snow.

 

For the other skis you're interested in, I hear good things about the Q115, didn't get to try it, I'm sure the Lines are fun. I would avoid the Shiro as I've learned I've got to have camber underfoot for the feel I like, that's the main reason I don't like the Cochises (and the two layers of metal).

 

It's snowing in Tahoe, getting ready for a great long weekend.

post #32 of 38

great review thanks

post #33 of 38
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great review thanks

your welcome! I must say, demo, demo, demo, find the magic ski for you, that's the secret.

post #34 of 38
Hey all, I know this blog is old, but though I'd try to hit you up anyway. Im looking into buying some used 2013 Crimsons and looking at a 185 as im 6'3" 210 to 215 lbs. My question is how soft and forgiving is this ski. Im advanced on piste, intermediate in moguls amd deep powder. I just want something fun at speed and stable.
post #35 of 38
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Hey all, I know this blog is old, but though I'd try to hit you up anyway. Im looking into buying some used 2013 Crimsons and looking at a 185 as im 6'3" 210 to 215 lbs. My question is how soft and forgiving is this ski. Im advanced on piste, intermediate in moguls amd deep powder. I just want something fun at speed and stable.

Hi!

I ski the 2013 version in 178.  (For reference, I'm ~150/5'10".)   It is great on piste, to me one of the best if not the best at this width, for me fun.  It's great and fun in bumps, though with its stiffish tail, there are better bump skis around.  It kills crud as it goes, unless the crud is monster.  Powder past 4", not so much: I switch to different skis past ~3" at least, if only for the fun factor (rather than what it can actually handle).  

 

The Crimson ti has the characteristic Atomic edge sensitivity (in common with even the Atomic race skis).  

 

"Fun at speed and stable" it is.  For me at my weight (but not yours), the 185 is also great but not for bumps.   For you, at your weight and height, it would be different, good in bumps, I'd have to guess

 

 

 

Just to be sure, you are talking about this version of the Crimson:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQb3ghRTitU

 

(Couldn't seem to find a pic I could paste)


Edited by ski otter - 1/15/16 at 4:35pm
post #36 of 38

P.S. I'm guessing you didn't like the more recent, softer flex version.

 

 Lots of people I've run into like that version less. 

 

I also demoed the '14 (thru '15) version of the Crimson, which is definitely softer flex, different graphics.  And then got a second pair of the '13s when I could find 'em, to use once my current pair dies. 

 

  At my weight, I enjoyed the longer 185 length of that softer '14 Crimson as a frontside charger, as (or slightly more?) stable as the '13 178 length for frontside turns at speed.  For me the softer flex was sort of balanced by the longer length, it seemed like, at my weight.   I still wouldn't want that longer ski for bumps, at my ~150 lbs.  

 

But probably the ski to compare the '13 Crimson to would be the new ('16) Atomic Vantage cti 90 in 184.  (I can't find a longer version, not sure if they make one or not.)  

How did you like that ski?

 

For me the 184 was slightly long: I had to make sure I was driving far enough forward to make this ski work optimally, something foreign to the Crimsons I've tried.  But it had, at my weight, a wonderful edge carve, very fun to work it, and I might have put it on my list of possibles if I weren't apparently in between on sizing of this ski.     

post #37 of 38
Thanks for responding. I used to have an the original blackeyes, then went to the Apache Xplorer, which are good, but much prefered the atomic edge hold in the steeps.

I am also looking at the CTi 85's and 90's. Skeptical to go really wode as I do a lot more frontside and steeps. I was to become a better powder rider, but at my age and slight knee problems; just like ripping the groomers with light powder. I guess ill just have to demo the CTI 90
post #38 of 38

I'm a little smaller (5'6", ~ 145 lbs), advanced 42 yo skier (mostly Ontario/Quebec, with occasional trips to Vermont/Rockies), and I'm really liking the Vantage 90 CTI in 176.  I had previously demoed the Blackeye Ti and Crimson Ti (probably 2014s), as well as the Theory.

 

I haven't had the Vantage out in more than a few inches yet, but on hardback and soft groomers (also hoped up end of day crud), they have been great.  I'm finding they ski pretty short, so the 176 feels perfect to me, surprisingly easy to get up on edge, carve well unless you get sloppy on icy patches, and are really easy to smear/slip around for tight spots (I like trees and bumps).

 

They feel more playful than the Blackeye or Crimson, and much more solid on hardpack/ice than the Theory (although that may be tune related), which was exactly what I needed.  Certainly worth demoing.

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