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post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 
Hello, I am looking for a new boot and have a really hard time finding ski boots. I have a wide foot and forefoot and often have problems with shoes that squish my toes together. Ive never had a proper fitting pair of ski boots. Theyre usually too big because I need the width and then I end up having to tighten them down uncomfortably, which hurts and cuts off circulation. I just tried on the solomon rs120 size 26.5 and the width and toe box was nice and wide but I felt like it was way too much volume over the top of my foot and I would end up having to buckle them way too tight. I tried nordica and technica and they both had less volume over my foot but one had a uncomfortable tongue and the other was too tight with pressure points.
What should I be looking at?
I will be going to alpine haus in wethersfield ct soon(never been) who has a decent bootfitter according to their website. They carry dalbello, lange, nordica, and tecnica but im open to any suggestions.
Thanks

Ps you can usually find me on black diamonds in vermont.
Edited by GerGa - 1/19/13 at 4:21pm
post #2 of 18

Welcome to Epic. You might try posting this over on the Boot Fitters Forum. Personally (also have a wide forefoot), I've never found any boot from any maker that even vaguely resembles the human foot, let alone one that's wide in front. According to fitter in VT I know, Euro rep for boot company told him that Americans have fat feet, and Euro makers can't be bothered to change their lasts; we should go on a diet. What that's got to do with skeletal dimensions is unclear, but that mentality is what you're working against.

 

This year tried on several brands, Head Raptors supposedly have a "square" toe box for extra room, found no such extra room even though it looks mildly squared off on the outside. Salomons, which used to have a wider front and narrower rear, have gained a lot of volume overall and won't work if your ankle isn't thick. Some of the 100 mm Langes aren't bad, so that'd be a place to begin. I have Dalbellos, which are better this year for metatarsal width, but still take some work if you're wide. No doubt someone here will suggest Fischer Vacuums, which are supposed to be the solution for problem feet. 

 

The solution for any foot, of course, is for boot makers to take an cat scan of some feet and then compare it to their lasts and molds. But that would be too obvious. Better to design boots to resemble street shoes with fronts that are symmetrically narrowed. wink.gif

post #3 of 18

Some Langes have a 102mm last with a narrow heel. I have wide feet and the Super Blasters and like them a lot.

post #4 of 18
Try Lange RS or RX with very thin sock. The both have somewhat narrow heel and wide forefoot. If it isn't wide enough try RS WIDE. Actually the RX comes with 100 mm last. GL
post #5 of 18

lange RX/RS wide, head Vector, Atomic M tech ...or next season Lange SX (RX mould shape in a 102mm last) salomon X Pro (X Max but 2mm wider in the forefoot before moulding)

 

but all in all find a boot fitter, let then guide you and expect (if your foot is that wide) to have the boot modified to suit your foot

 

Beyond, nothing at all to do with americans having fat feet.....europeans have fat feet too, it is about economics and what works for the vast majority, if you want to start a company specialising in wide boots for fat feet then you can, it won't last long and you are unlikely to make much money.... the sure fire way to make a small fortune out of ski kit is to start with a large one

post #6 of 18

If I am not mistaken, Rossi's Sesnor line has a high performace model in a 102 Last.  Might be worth checking into.

 

Good Luck

 

Rick G

post #7 of 18
Thread Starter 

Thanks for all your replies - I have made a new thread to continue this discussion in the Boot fitter forum with my results from a visit to a couple ski shops today

http://www.epicski.com/t/117305/boot-for-wide-fore-feet

post #8 of 18

I have the same problem with a very wide forefoot.  Quite a few years ago, I went to one of the better boot fitters here in NH and ended up with a pair of Stroltz boots with custom-foamed liners. Not fancy or pretty but they work! He did some work on the shell to be sure there was good clearance in the forefoot and then did the liner with only thin socks.  They work well and, even though they are now old, I'm very reluctant to attempt to switch given the problem I have finding any kind of footwear that actually fits.  Stroltz is hard to find but you might check with the importer to see if there is a dealer near you.  Good luck!
 

post #9 of 18
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Originally Posted by beyond View Post

Welcome to Epic. You might try posting this over on the Boot Fitters Forum. Personally (also have a wide forefoot), I've never found any boot from any maker that even vaguely resembles the human foot, let alone one that's wide in front. According to fitter in VT I know, Euro rep for boot company told him that Americans have fat feet, and Euro makers can't be bothered to change their lasts; we should go on a diet. What that's got to do with skeletal dimensions is unclear, but that mentality is what you're working against.

 

This year tried on several brands, Head Raptors supposedly have a "square" toe box for extra room, found no such extra room even though it looks mildly squared off on the outside. Salomons, which used to have a wider front and narrower rear, have gained a lot of volume overall and won't work if your ankle isn't thick. Some of the 100 mm Langes aren't bad, so that'd be a place to begin. I have Dalbellos, which are better this year for metatarsal width, but still take some work if you're wide. No doubt someone here will suggest Fischer Vacuums, which are supposed to be the solution for problem feet. 

 

The solution for any foot, of course, is for boot makers to take an cat scan of some feet and then compare it to their lasts and molds. But that would be too obvious. Better to design boots to resemble street shoes with fronts that are symmetrically narrowed. wink.gif

Interestingly, lasts on Italian shoes tend to be wider than on American shoes. Does this translate to ski boots? Yes and no. Over the years I found some brands' lasts friendlier to wider feet than others (Italian-made Nordica, San Marco, Dolomite were generally wide-ish, Lange/Rossignol, also made here, much less so. Austrian-made Dachstein and Dynafit were also once known as wide boots).

But now that dimensions are widely available, there's less guesswork involved. No longer any excuse for walking into a shop unprepared. 

 

post #10 of 18

I went to a fitter last year and they stated I also had a narrow heel and wide forefront.  They recommended the Dalbello Viper but didn't have my size in the shop.  You may want to check it out as well but I'd just focus on finding a good fitter and letting them guide you.  Their advice will be better than any I can give you.

post #11 of 18

My feet are like swim fins.

Also have a high arch, skinny ankles and big calves.

After working with a great boot fitter and checking a zillion boots, I ended up with Atomic B Tech.

Check them out..

http://www.atomic.com/en-US/Products/Alpine/Boots/All%20Mountain/B_120/AE5006780.aspx?filter=565%3a3

post #12 of 18

I would 2nd the Lange Super Blaster. I have had issues with other boots, but these have been great for my wide feet. The other option that I would check into if you really want a great fit and not quite as budget conscious would be Daleboot. Custom fitted to your feet and never heard a bad review. A friend of mine has some of the nastiest feet you can imagine and almost gave up skiing before he switched to them back in the late 80's. He hasn't put on a different brand boot since. They have gotten great reviews in the yearly gear guides too for what it's worth.

post #13 of 18
I have the same problem. Spent a full day with a boot fitter. Tried everything. Ended up with Strolz. An Austrian brand that specialises in bespoke solutions. Cost a fortune. They even heated up and adjusted the outer shell in order to get a good fit.

The ski boot is fantastic. Went for the softer shell as I am getting older and need to more flex to dampen the forces.
post #14 of 18

Technica makes a HVL line (High Volume Line).  I have hte Phoenix HVL from 2 years ago and they're ok.

post #15 of 18

Oh! Finally a thread I might be able to contribute to instead of benefit from... So, I too have a mutant wide forefoot and could not find boots that would accomodate. I happened upon a sale of a set of Solomon Impact 120 CS boots with all sorts of adjustable bits and a 102 last out of the box with a sort of adaptive memory foam interior. They can be cooked in an oven by a boot fitter to get all the way to 106 but I didn't need that - there was enough push in the foam to work for me. I skied them all last weekend and they were great but I really liked that I had the option to take them to a pro for adjustment if it didn't work out. Lots of companies sell this sort of thing... but...

 

They used to retail for $750. I picked them up for $285 here >>> http://tinyurl.com/m5azz5u

 

They have your size (26.5) still in stock with a year to send it back if you no like. The price leaves a lot of wiggle room (pardon the pun) for a fitter if you really need one and the boot was made for custom fitting so hopefully that makes his job easier and less costly to you for his/her services.

 

Good luck.

post #16 of 18

I too have a hobbit sized forefoot and narrow heel. Plus need a size 23 shell which greatly limits selection to few models in general and local ski shop either does not stock this size or sells out fast to growing teens.   Local ski shop sales person tried to sell me a size 25 due to not having anything smaller in stock!.  I walked out empty handed. 

 

Ended up asking local skiers for ideas on shops/bootfitters and got 2 leads of places 3 hours away.  Called both shops  & found one with the best selection.  Got a basic Nordica boot with lots of shell punching done.  Boot costed about $300 on sale  including fitting.   It was well worth the drive.  

post #17 of 18
I've got big fat feet too. I've gone through a lot of boots, all boot fitted for 6th toe and fat forefoot. By far the best boot that has worked for me is the salomon xmax 120. Used the salomon impact cs 120 prior. The difference for me is the xmax has a much better heel cup than the impact for my foot. After about 50 days and the liner getting packed out, I installed an intuition pro tongue liner. A world of difference. Custom liner, custom she'll is the only way to go for big EEEE feet. You can also look at the salomon pro max series.
post #18 of 18

Look at the last size specs on the boots.  Pick one that matches your foot size.  Only one I know that wide is Technica HVL.

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