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President week ski Colorado vs Utah

post #1 of 50
Thread Starter 

Hello Everyone

 

I'm planning a ski vacation during President week (18-22 Feb 2013 -- my daughter's winter recess) I never skied outside New England... Skiing in western is a kind of my dream, and I have only one chance to do it (I'm going to leave US soon for my business). My daughter is kind of an upper beginner and I'm an upper intermediate. My wife does not ski. Every ski resort will be very crowded during the President week. I don't want to ruin my only chance to go western ski area. I can choose Denver or SLC for arrival and once we decide a ski area to stay, we don't want to move to another area. 

 

Please give me some idea.....

post #2 of 50

Where is Utha?

post #3 of 50
Thread Starter 

I meant Utah

post #4 of 50

Go to Alta, Utah.  Stay in one of the lodges on the slopes.  The skiing should be great for you and daughter.  Tell wife to bring books to read.  When it is over you can always tell people you skied the place known for the greatest snow on Earth.  The crowds may be a small problem, but probably not too bad unless they get a bunch of powder while you are there.  Then it is a problem you can live with.smile.gif

post #5 of 50

Sorry, I couldn't help myself. Utah. Colorado is having another really tough snow year. Not that Utah is killing it, but they are doing better. For your level, you would also like the Park City areas. And your wife who does not ski would have way more to do than LCC.

post #6 of 50
Thread Starter 

Thanks 

 

People say Alta/Snowbird are not good for beginner level skiers...is it true? Then do I have to consider Solitude ?

post #7 of 50

another vote for park city area.  3 nice resorts to check out plus wife does have the town to check out.  Snowbird is definitely not for beginners.    While you might enjoy Snowbird, I don't think your daughter would.  Alta is just for skiers, no boarders allowed.  There is not much night life at either place and you will be forced to leave LCC for reasonably priced food. 

post #8 of 50

Snowbird is not good for beginners or nervous intermediates.  Was there as a confident intermediate and got bored because there wasn't that much that I was comfortable skiing alone due to poor visibility (snow storm).

 

In my opinion, Alta is wonderful for beginners, intermediates, advanced, and experts.  Especially good for intermediates who are lucky enough to hit a powder day.  Lots of place to play in powder on the edges of groomed blues.

 

I skied Alta as a intermediate years ago as a teen.  One reason I kept wanting to get back on the slopes was that experience.  Confirmed the feeling as an adult before I had become an advanced skier.  My daughter started skiing at Alta at age 7.  She learned in the southeast.  The ski school had her hunting for powder after the first day.  We've been going during her spring break for several years now.  Spend a fair amount of time off the Supreme lift.

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Thanks 

 

People say Alta/Snowbird are not good for beginner level skiers...is it true? Then do I have to consider Solitude ?

post #9 of 50

Staying in Park City in Feb makes good sense with a non-skier.  You and your daughter should go over to Alta for a day.  Or perhaps Snowbasin if you get a rental car.  That will be less crowded.

post #10 of 50
Thread Starter 

Thanks everyone

 

Nobody recommended Colorado area. I'll check Park City & Alta. 

post #11 of 50

The lodges at Snowbasin are incredible, I know my wife would have no problem staying there all day with a good book.  When I was there they had a band playing outside, spent the afternoon hanging out in the sun listening to some good music.  (after taking a bad wreck, normally I would ride all day lol)

post #12 of 50
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I checked Alta, but it does not have many lodging options. Is it ok staying at inn at snowbird and skiing Alta? Or staying park city ? park city has many accommodation options but a little bit expensive than other area
post #13 of 50
Thread Starter 
And how long it will take from park city to Alta if I use a shuttle? I'll not rent a car
post #14 of 50

Take a look at this related thread.  One of the ones that you can find by using the Tag (right of Post #1) to get to the EpicSki resorts page for Park City.

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/116878/group-of-5-brits-and-our-utah-trip-feb-20th

 

It is fine to stay at Snowbird and ski Alta.  You would take the free bus from Snowbird to Alta, about 10 min to Albion base.  That's where the ski school and beginner lifts are located.

 

There are shuttle services from Park City for day trips to Alta.  One has the option of including the lift ticket.

 

Where are you flying from?  Are you bringing skis?

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I checked Alta, but it does not have many lodging options. Is it ok staying at inn at snowbird and skiing Alta? Or staying park city ? park city has many accommodation options but a little bit expensive than other area

 

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And how long it will take from park city to Alta if I use a shuttle? I'll not rent a car
post #15 of 50
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Go to Alta, Utah.  Stay in one of the lodges on the slopes.  The skiing should be great for you and daughter.  Tell wife to bring books to read. 
You obviously aren't married...or won't be for long. Lol
post #16 of 50
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Thanks 

 

People say Alta/Snowbird are not good for beginner level skiers...is it true? Then do I have to consider Solitude ?


Snowbird is a no-go for beginners. Alta is much better, from what I understand (I'm a boarder that's never been).

 

Utah in general doesn't get the same type of destination crowds as the easy-access (Summit County/Vail) CO resorts, so definitely a better choice for President's week. Personally, I'd skip PC, since crowds seem to be your main criterion. PC will be less crowded than CO but likely more crowded than other UT resorts. Maybe stay in SLC for your wife, rent a car and then do the Cottonwoods. Solitude is a good bet for shedding crowds.

 

Also, consider a day at Snowbasin and/or Powder. Snowbasin is an excellent resort for intermediates, with some great blue groomers. It also has a fair amount of green terrain. Powder is a mellow resort overall with tons of terrain and snow that lasts days and days.

post #17 of 50
Thread Starter 

Thanks for all the advices

 

I have another question. I'm an Eastern skier (I live in CT), do not have experience of powder...

 

I and my daughter are using carving skies (narrow waist) I mostly skied on groomed slopes...

 

Carving skies are OK for Utah snow, or just bring boots and rent wide waist skies ?

post #18 of 50

Bring your groomer ski's and if you get a good storm then rent some wider/softer ski's and see what all the new technology is about.  As said before staying at Snowbird and skiing Alta is pretty painless. 

 

Staying in Salt Lake and renting a car will almost certainly be cheaper than staying at Snowbird or the Park City areas.  It also gives you much more flexibility.  The downside is parking and slinging gear around every day is a pain in the rear.  Up to you to decide those kind of priorities.

 

And just my personal opinion here but if you do stay at Snowbird do not try and get your daughter to ski there.  There's exactly two true beginner runs there (both short), so don't believe the trail map.  The trail map greens are generally green relative to the rest of Snowbird, but it's a really difficult hill compared to most.

post #19 of 50

Have you flown with skis before?  If you have, then bring them.  Otherwise just bring your boots (do not check them) and rent whatever skis make the most sense for snow conditions.

 

I've skied on the Alta groomers with relatively narrow skis, mid-70's, and had a very good time.  For that matter, I skied on Alta groomers with straight skis in 1982 and 1993 and had a good time. These days, I'll use my own Rossi Attraxion 8's (127-75-108) in up to 6 inches of fresh ungroomed powder but rent something wider for anything deeper.  I'm a petite women so with a wide shovel I can float enough even with the narrow waist.  Started learning powder skiing a few years ago.  Got lucky during a multi-day clinic for advanced skiers in north Tahoe.  10 inches on Day 2 and 2 feet on Day 3 of the clinic.  I was demo'ing the Attraxion 8.

 

Alta Ski School is good.  My daughter has loved all her instructors.  Started when she was 7 five years ago at Level 4 or 5.  We stay at Alta Lodge during her spring break week.

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Originally Posted by prodoc View Post

Thanks for all the advices

 

I have another question. I'm an Eastern skier (I live in CT), do not have experience of powder...

 

I and my daughter are using carving skies (narrow waist) I mostly skied on groomed slopes...

 

Carving skies are OK for Utah snow, or just bring boots and rent wide waist skies ?

post #20 of 50
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Originally Posted by prodoc View Post

Thanks 

 

People say Alta/Snowbird are not good for beginner level skiers...is it true? Then do I have to consider Solitude ?

 

Alta is just fine for beginners.  Groomed runs and relatively wide. (Solitude has wider runs however).  Also no snowboarders which is nice for a beginner.

 

Snowbird, I would not recommend for beginners.  Too many of the blues are just cat tracks.

post #21 of 50

If you decide to stay in Park City, Deer Valley is the other place in the U.S. for skiers only.

 

Where have you and your daughter skied in New England?  How old is she?

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Originally Posted by prodoc View Post

Hello Everyone

 

I'm planning a ski vacation during President week (18-22 Feb 2013 -- my daughter's winter recess) I never skied outside New England... Skiing in western is a kind of my dream, and I have only one chance to do it (I'm going to leave US soon for my business). My daughter is kind of an upper beginner and I'm an upper intermediate. My wife does not ski. Every ski resort will be very crowded during the President week. I don't want to ruin my only chance to go western ski area. I can choose Denver or SLC for arrival and once we decide a ski area to stay, we don't want to move to another area. 

 

Please give me some idea.....

post #22 of 50

If you're worried about crowds, I heard Deer Valley stay relatively uncrowded. 

 

Perhaps those more familiar with Park City can confirm if that's the case? (I've never done Park City during the big holiday weekends)

 

And before you totally write off Colorado, out of way places like Steamboat probably aren't quite as mobbed as the more typical CO resorts. And your wife can roam around the town not get totally bored. 

 

From the eastern skiers prospective, "crowded" in western resorts are still a whole magnitude quieter than the east.

post #23 of 50

Crowds.  There is no such thing in the Utah vocabulary.  At least not by summit county colorado standards where 30 - 40 minute lift lines can and do happen on popular holiday weekends. 

 

Never skied the east coast.

post #24 of 50

I think Deer Valley limits the number of lift tickets sold on a given day.  Have seen something about making sure to get there early enough in the morning.  Had heard that about Alta too, but not sure that's still the case.

 

For lift line waiting, perhaps less of an issue than for beginners and intermediates than advanced/experts?  I wonder if those on vacation during a holiday week are more likely to be folks good enough to mostly be on lifts for more advanced terrain.  I could be completely wrong.  I do think locals would not bother to ski on a holiday weekend unless there is a powder dump.  In that case, those locals wouldn't be on beginner lifts.

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If you're worried about crowds, I heard Deer Valley stay relatively uncrowded. 

 

. . .

 

From the eastern skiers prospective, "crowded" in western resorts are still a whole magnitude quieter than the east.

post #25 of 50
Thread Starter 

Thanks

 

I'll check Dear Valley also. I heard that Dear Valley is one of the most luxurious ski resort in US. It will be fun if a humble man like me can ski in the resort...

post #26 of 50
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Thanks

 

I'll check Dear Valley also. I heard that Dear Valley is one of the most luxurious ski resort in US. It will be fun if a humble man like me can ski in the resort...

Some day you should go to Snowbasin.  I haven't been to Deer Valley yet so can't compare.  The lodges at Snowbasin that were built for the Olympics are stunning.  The views on a blue sky day beat anything closer to SLC because of the lay of the land.

post #27 of 50
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Some day you should go to Snowbasin.  I haven't been to Deer Valley yet so can't compare.  The lodges at Snowbasin that were built for the Olympics are stunning.  The views on a blue sky day beat anything closer to SLC because of the lay of the land.

I honestly thought that for a day skiier, Snowbasin was even more luxurious than Deer Valley.

post #28 of 50
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I honestly thought that for a day skiier, Snowbasin was even more luxurious than Deer Valley.


They're different.

 

Deer Valley, for all the hype, doesn't LOOK luxurious. Snowbasin on the other hand, has the look. Gold plated faucet in the bathroom etc...

 

What Deer Valley offers, is a bit of extra service here and there. Like, ski valet at the drop off zone, shuttle going around the parking lot (I don't mean a satellite parking, just the main parking lot) etc. Not everyone cares for such "service". Just like not everyone cares about gold plated door handles and faucets.

 

Both mountain is known to take good care of their slopes with good grooming. Again, whether that's your cup of tea or not is very individual thing. I don't care for much of those so I found both are "just another resort".

 

 

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I heard that Dear Valley is one of the most luxurious ski resort in US. It will be fun if a humble man like me can ski in the resort...

 

And for all the talk of luxury, neither mountain are particularly expensive, not compared to their neighbors. So by all means try them out and see if you like them.

post #29 of 50

Snowbasin is a better hill and at_nyc is basically right about the opulence versus added services angle between Snowbasin and Deer Valley.  I've had good days at both and I think you would too.

post #30 of 50
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I've never flown with my skis... I'm a little bit afraid of it... 

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