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Intuition Liner Problem - Need some advice

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Have a pair of ski boots (couple years old) never skied - tags still on -  don't think liner was ever molded.

Has the Intuition Power Wrap liner. 

 

Sold it - new owner claims his shop said liners are "cooked" and hard.

 

Wondering what the story is -  I tried them on and, while firm liners to begin with, I didn't notice any "hardness" or forming having been done. Pulled them out and inspected them prior to selling and they seemed brand new. Could it just be the liners are firm to begin with or would need to be used alot to soften up over time. Trying to determine if this is a likely scenario -or- if it is a user preference thing (fit discomfort) that is being blamed on "cooked" liners. Like I said, the liners are pretty firm anyway as liners go and that combined with the typical ski boot fitting issues might be the problem and not "cooked' liners. in my experience, it is pretty hard to mess up moldable liners to the point they would be unusable (in fact, I have never run across it before). not saying it is "impossible" but could there be other fit issues at play here?  

 

First pair of Intuition liners I have had so someone with some experience with these would help.

 

Thanks.

post #2 of 7
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Originally Posted by goodguy View Post

Have a pair of ski boots (couple years old) never skied - tags still on -  don't think liner was ever molded.

Has the Intuition Power Wrap liner. 

 

Sold it - new owner claims his shop said liners are "cooked" and hard.

 

Wondering what the story is -  I tried them on and, while firm liners to begin with, I didn't notice any "hardness" or forming having been done. Pulled them out and inspected them prior to selling and they seemed brand new. Could it just be the liners are firm to begin with or would need to be used alot to soften up over time. Trying to determine if this is a likely scenario -or- if it is a user preference thing (fit discomfort) that is being blamed on "cooked" liners. Like I said, the liners are pretty firm anyway as liners go and that combined with the typical ski boot fitting issues might be the problem and not "cooked' liners. in my experience, it is pretty hard to mess up moldable liners to the point they would be unusable (in fact, I have never run across it before). not saying it is "impossible" but could there be other fit issues at play here?  

 

First pair of Intuition liners I have had so someone with some experience with these would help.

 

Thanks.

Confusing post- do you have the boots or did you sell them. If sold are you just curious?

Intuitions can be molded a few times although they will shrink a bit each time. Cooking doesn't make them 'hard'

Many, many threads and posts on the TGR website about molding Intuituions. I suggest you check out the Intuition website first

post #3 of 7
There are several possibilities. The ski shop doesn't know jack about Intuition liners or they've convinced your buyer that the boots aren't right for him/her so they can sell a pair of boots. My previous Intuition liners were cooked 5 times and they're still fine, my son is now using them and thinks they're great. My current boots have Intuition liners and they've been done twice. The old liners are not any harder than the newer ones. Tell your buyer to search utube for videos on molding them, it isn't difficult.
post #4 of 7

Intuition's are hard. I would bet the shop doesn't know shit about intuitions.

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Originally Posted by mtcyclist View Post

they've convinced your buyer that the boots aren't right for him/her so they can sell a pair of boots.

^^^^^ This. Intuition wraps range from firm to moderate (typically made of densest + less dense), depending on the specific model. They can feel fairly "stiff" before they've been baked, actually.

post #6 of 7

When I replaced the stock liners in my boots a few years ago with Intuition Powerwraps I had a choice of the Gold or Silver versions. One was considerably harder than the other. I agree that It sounds like the shop may not have much experience with Intuitions.

post #7 of 7

If the outside of the liners were smooth when you sold them, then they had never been cooked. Once cooked, the outside of the liner will take on the shape and irregularities of the shell, bumps, rivets, etc. and it's pretty obvious even to the untrained eye that they've been cooked.  Which of the two conditions describes what they were like when you sold them?

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