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post #61 of 86

Go ahead, get one. Embrace your inner Teletubby!

post #62 of 86
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Originally Posted by jeff2010 View Post

I ended up getting the original Contour Roam on clearance for $100 at target.com. I used the rotating surface mount instead of the helmet mount and it worked great--the rotating mount lets you tilt the camera up or down, whereas the helmet mount is fixed. I installed it in my hotel room the night before my trip to Killington. The camera is very easy to turn on and off while wearing gloves; I turned it on only when going down except for one time when I accidentally recorded my entire conversation with someone on the gondola.

 

Here's a sample video, taken on the Superstar run, a moderately steep black at Killington. They had been blowing snow for 5 days straight, so there was a bit of fresh. I was on a demo pair of Dynastar Cham 97. The only problem I had (on other runs, not this one) was ice particles from the snow guns getting on the camera lens and my goggles.

 


SO does the guy in the beginning of the video have on a Pabst blue ribbon ski jacket or are my eyes bad?

post #63 of 86

I like to film my wipeouts.  Far more entertaining than your standard gopro vids.  This was yesterday.

 

post #64 of 86

That's a good point.  I was just cat skiing at Mustang Powder and they wouldn't let us wear the gopro chest harness due to interference with the beacon.  You might want to check out Liquid Image' googles with the POV camera built right in. The model is called the "Apex" I've got a pair on order right now. 

post #65 of 86

I feel really bad that I just chuckled when I watched that. I have no reason why!

post #66 of 86

I always find it funny that after a wipeout the first thing whomever falls does it turn the camera off

post #67 of 86

I use a Contour camera mounted to my helmet.  I primarily use it to tape my 8 year old skiing so I can show the video to my wife, family and friends.  My wife doesn't ski and neither do the grandparents so this allows everyone to feel like they're right there watching him ski.

post #68 of 86

Realize it will be an unpopular POV, but personally, I find little in the world as boring as watching a POV helmet video. Even friends', even mine (tried coupla of times.) Angles and perspective's distorted, limited field of view, so hard to see how tough or not the skiing is, just these little tips doing wipers back and forth, snowfields rushing past, kind of like a shot though a small car windshield, but with heavy breathing. There's a reason that ski movies don't do a lot of this...

 

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post #70 of 86

Now this is interesting POV skiing imo.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09aF8pvJhKI

post #71 of 86
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Now this is interesting POV skiing imo.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09aF8pvJhKI

 

One of my favorite videos ever ever ever. I bet that guy probably thinks a lot more about checking his speed before he goes over rollers where he can't see the other side...

 

On a more somber note, I'm really glad there wasn't a tree, rock, cliff, or person on the other side of that, especially consider that there were several people seen skiing in the video...

post #72 of 86

Dorky ---------------  unless you are a boarder getting BIG AIR in a half pipe or off some serious cliffs.

 

Still who cares, I would wear one, I mean I ski in 25 year old rear entry boots, can't get much dorkier than that can you.

post #73 of 86
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Dorky ---------------  unless you are a boarder getting BIG AIR in a half pipe or off some serious cliffs.

 

Still who cares, I would wear one, I mean I ski in 25 year old rear entry boots, can't get much dorkier than that can you.

 

Eh. Its dorky to spend a bunch of time publishing hours and hours of lame and tame riding online. 90% of what I record I do nothing with, and the rest I usually only share with friends who ask.  Evn on days where the whole day was waist deep, I have a lot of video that just isn't very compelling due to camera angle, recording issues, or lack of my own skier skill making things boring.

 

But there are other factors. My father can no longer ski, and really, really misses the time we spent together on the slopes. When he saw I had a camera, he couldn't wait to see video. When my Aspen ski bum brother and me meet up, there is usually an hour or so of go-pro footage watched as we BS about our ski year. Its not great footage by any stretch, but you can either describe conditions, or load a file and show things firsthand.

 

Not everything needs to be TGR quality to have value, just don't upload 4 hours of groomer cruising to youtube. I think where footage gets really lame is not when it is captured, but when it gets indiscriminately uploaded.

post #74 of 86

Actually i don't mind ordinary footage to be uploaded.

 

I find it is great when you have a ski trip booked (or when choosing a destination) to get the dream going by checking videos of every run or area that looks interesting on you tube... it makes for great research on what to expect and which runs/area to try and which to avoid. 

post #75 of 86
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Actually i don't mind ordinary footage to be uploaded.

 

I find it is great when you have a ski trip booked (or when choosing a destination) to get the dream going by checking videos of every run or area that looks interesting on you tube... it makes for great research on what to expect and which runs/area to try and which to avoid. 

That would actually be a nice addition to online trail maps! Click on a run and see what the run is really like. A lot of golf courses have fly overs these days for their sites. 

 

I don't think it's dorky to wear one. It is can be if you're barely an intermediate. Just don't upload your whole trip like others have mentioned. I got the miveu last week, just on a whim. I shoot video professionally, so after tomorrow, I'll post my thoughts. Right off the bat, I think the miveu fits a niche for people that don't want to worry about another piece of electronics on their person. It is already at a disadvantage (video wise) as the iphone isn't really made to be an action cam- horrible rolling shutter/jello - slow aperture for changing conditions... Like I said, I'll post a quick review after I try it out tomorrow for a bit. 

post #76 of 86
WWW.claimmyrun.com is basically an online trail map with users uploading footage.
post #77 of 86
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Originally Posted by Philwilhelm View Post

That's a good point.  I was just cat skiing at Mustang Powder and they wouldn't let us wear the gopro chest harness due to interference with the beacon.  You might want to check out Liquid Image' googles with the POV camera built right in. The model is called the "Apex" I've got a pair on order right now. 

 

I bought a pair of the Liquid Image goggles last year.  I wanted to record my sons skiing but didn't want to have something sticking off the top of my head.  I really like the LI goggles as I know that wherever my eyes are looking the camera is as well.  My family has had a number of great laughs watching the videos we've made.  Well worth the investment, IMO.

post #78 of 86
They are great if you have somebody to video you and vice versa, because you actually get to see yourself.

My two older boys got Contour GPS' for Xmas on clearance from REI for $50/ea (apparently the GoPro was the only thing selling). We'll probably collect about 20 hours of footage this season and I'll condense it down to 15 or 20 minutes for extended family.

It is fun, though, in the family context. I caught an edge the other day at moderate speed and couldn't recover quickly so I sat it down because I was near enough to the trees, and there is a good 5 seconds of close up of my self arresting that the kids think is hysterical. Those moments are worth it for family replay and will make the cut for sure.

We didn't mount for the angle of seeing your ski tips. I understand why people do it as it shows some first person POV of technique and close up of conditions, but if the intent is to film others and be filmed by them, I think a focus on what you are seeing rather than what your skis are doing tells a better story, especially when you are filming somebody else for their benefit.
post #79 of 86
I mount my go pro facing backwards. Hilarious.
And it gets everyone in my group that's following.

Most of the time I just want to ski and not dick around with a camera.
post #80 of 86
post #81 of 86
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Originally Posted by trees View Post

I mount my go pro facing backwards. Hilarious.
And it gets everyone in my group that's following.

Most of the time I just want to ski and not dick around with a camera.

I use the Contour, but the idea is the same.  Turn the camera around for some cool shots of anyone following you.  Also, attach the camera to a ski pole* and film yourselves going up a lift as the beginning scene of a ski vacation video. 

 

Is a camera dorky?  Who cares.  My kids will look at the videos stored in a cloud 40 years from now and figure out I wasn't such an A-Hole after all. 

 

FWIW, if anyone shoots with the Contour definitely check out the "Tall" aspect ratio when skiing.  It is easier to get the tips of your skis in the video using the goggle mount when shooting with this aspect ratio.

 

* The PEDCO Ultraclamp does a good job:  http://www.epicski.com/products/pedco-ultra-clamp

 

 

Here is a link to the PEDCO clamp in use, part of a 24 minute vid I did with my 9-year old:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeQaaRtGCnI&feature=youtu.be  If clicking in the photo doesn't work, the link should.

 

Please don't give me crap about favoring one leg...my ankle and knee are still recovering from a biking accident.

 


Edited by quant2325 - 4/3/13 at 12:52pm
post #82 of 86

Reviving an old thread:

Just bought a Contour Roam2 at REI for $150. All of their contour stuff is on clearance due to the shuttering of the company.

post #83 of 86
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Originally Posted by GrumpyRestonian View Post
 

Reviving an old thread:

Just bought a Contour Roam2 at REI for $150. All of their contour stuff is on clearance due to the shuttering of the company.

It is a much better camera than the original that I own.  GoPro has the market mostly to themselves, now.  Anyhow, check out some great inexpensive camera mounts sold on ebay.  These things attach to poles, handle bars, skis, etc. and cost $5 or so, including shipping from China.  

post #84 of 86

They are expensive, but GoPro is where it's at from a technology standpoint. Being able to preview the shot with an app on your cell phone is so awesome if you've ever shot a few runs with the camera pointing at the sky\ground\etc. 

 

So far this season I've just wanted to ski and nothing is really open yet, but I can't wait to try it out in earnest. I'm thinking a rhino swivel mount might also be on the shopping list. Best POV IMO by far....

 

 

post #85 of 86

I really wish Go Pro would buy the "on/off slide switch" patent from the remains of Contour.

post #86 of 86
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Originally Posted by JayT View Post
 

I really wish Go Pro would buy the "on/off slide switch" patent from the remains of Contour.


Main reason I bought the Contour.

Was hunting for the Contour+2, but just couldn't justify the expense for the amount of times I'll use it.

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