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Critique please part deux (one year later)

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Hello, about 1 year ago I posted a video and got some great feedback. Here is the thread: http://www.epicski.com/t/108000/critique-please


I have had 14 days on snow to work on all that I learned since that time but unfortunately no lessons. 9 last year and 5 so far this year. That will change this year as i definitely realize I cannot do it alone or via internet only. When I saw the video I was amazed that there seemed to be only very subtle changes. Both vids were taken on mod pitched blue groomers. The above was at the top of Crystal mtn (green valley? i think it was mentioned in the thread somewhere) and the 2nd was Alpine bowl at Alpine meadows. The above vid was on 72mm wide Dynastar contact cross ti's and the 2nd vid was on Fischer Watea 94. I definitely notice a difference when working on carving between the two skis but no excuses. Thanks very much for your feedback. I hope this works. agreen

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Oh sorry about the beginning of the video. The 1st 20 or so seconds are wasted. My buddy had a tough time with the camera.

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didn't read the other thread, so not sure how much of this is repeat, but few major things to work on first is:

  • your stance is too narrow.  Try to get your legs to be about shoulder width apart.  This will help with stability and give you the opportunity to ski more dynamic turns.  It also means your legs will have the room they need rather than blocking each other when you start adding bigger edge angles.
  • you're in the back seat. not too bad..but you could be more forward.  you really need to drive the front of the skis at the beginning of the turns.  It's really noticeable at 0:34.  You're putting your hands way out in front, but your butt is sticking way out behind.  There seems to be no pressure on the tongue of the boots.  Obviously, you realize you need to get forward...but you're going about it incorrectly.  Make sure to thrust your hips forward, not your head.
  • finish your turns.  You're all too eager to start the next turn, never allowing your skis to really finish.  This means you tend to go too straight down the fall line, which leads to faster, harder to control, speeds, which leads to scrubbing a lot of speed with defensive movements.  Instead, focus on finishing those turns (feel like you're almost going completely horizontal to the hill) before you start the next turn.  Use your line to control your speed, not your skis.  Learn to ski the the slow line fast.
post #4 of 6

You've made big gains since your last video. You've eliminated your big extension, so your turns look a lot more consistent. And in only 14 days? That's great!


Majortato's suggestions are good. I'd conceptualize your opportunities like this: 


Roll your skis on edge. Then as you finish your turn, roll them on edge even more! By doing so, you'll load up that ski, complete turns, and have some great rebound to initiate your next turn. Basically, I'd like to see you turning more so that you can move onto steeper pitches and manage speed, or ski the current pitches more dynamically. 


Widen your stance. You don't need to ski like a gorilla. But hip width will enable you to get higher edge angles. If you dislike the idea of widening your stance, try sucking your inside knee into your chest during turns. (If you hear your skis clacking together, or if the insides of your boots are scraped up, your stance is too narrow.)


As majortato identified, when you fall back, you tip at the waist to compensate. Your back may end up sore and it'll be difficult to ski bumps this way. Work on unlocking your ankle joint. Do some shuffles while skiing (where you slide your feet forward and back under your body using ankle movements).


Think about your timing. Your pole plant tends to happen a bit after you start your turning effort, which is late. Think of tapping your pole to release at the end of the old turn, rather than to start the new turn. 


Can you ski a variety of turn shapes? Medium to short and back to medium? See if you can mix it up. I couldn't see much steering versatility, but you may not have been aiming for a variety of shapes.


Great progress! 

post #5 of 6



Stand taller - expose your belly button to the wind, keep toe, knees and nose in vertical alignment (Tony Knows)

Finish your turns with your skis turning more than your upper body so that your upper body is facing to the inside of the new turn before you start to change edges.

Add more lower body movement (e.g. boot tipping) to your turn initiation.

Widen your stance a little more.


Try lifting and tipping the new inside ski when you start a turn (but keep the ski tip in contact with the snow).

post #6 of 6
Thread Starter 

Thanks for all the great advice! Im really encouraged that i am at least moving in the right direction from my previous video. i gotta long way to go but I am dedicated to improvement so i appreciate your help.


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