Originally Posted by razie
Quite a serious question for my education: how many here would describe Hirscher as "getting up" in every turn in this run: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MP2QYBHy0J0
... in my eyes, he barely gets past a "seated position"...?
I've never seen him ski before, interesting things going on. super athletic, super aggressive. I see in some turns where he is quite flexed around the gate, and starts an extension move to re-center, but cuts it short and retracts from that point. there are also some really clean retraction transitions. Ligety, quite a few more extension transitions, but also quite a few retraction turns.
sorry my comments on the liking canadians that are using extension transitions in many of their demo turns created any friction. god forbid i like canadian skiing. helluva, you basically call me blind, thanks. I have watched world class skier for quite a few years, ski OK for a conservative character who started skiing at 18, but I'm not blind or stupid, thanks. yes, they have a tremendous lateral move with their extensions.
the way i see it, JF and Seb Michel are making different turns in these videos then reily and the koreans. and japanese for that matter. In watching the interski comparison videos, italians have the most vertical extension, then the americans, then the canadians, w/ extension, but much more lateral/directional, with the asian teams having full on flexion transitions.
in this follow up, Tog makes sense to me, and seems open to what he sees, I agree w/ many of his notes.
Josh, great to hear from you!
I thought about you as I started to train this week for a winter/mud single speed race 3/1. East coast still good?
I see your point on unweighted/retracted, but agree w/ Tog on this one as well. when I am floating long w/ no weight on the skis, it is less energy and effort then floating in a retracted/compacted position.
with your tight east coast tree lines, i can see that there is rarely time for extension turns. tight trees are all about instantaneous release, quick engagement, retraction turns.