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post #1 of 25
Thread Starter 

A video from my trip to Camelback PA

 

 

There is no snow, but few runs are in good condition.  The Cliffhanger is very good by our standards.  On top of that it's empty, so it's perfect for this place. 

 

Btw, this year looks like a dog in terms of snow, but I manage to ski and enjoy every place I have been to.  If you're in the New York City are, Mountain Creek has way more snow than Camelback. 

post #2 of 25

MmmmmX88's. 

post #3 of 25

About what I expected a far as conditions....which is why I have yet to get out this year.

post #4 of 25

Drive north the extra 45 minutes to Elk. Mo Better.

 

Phil, wishing you were back east or is that video more like your typical nightmare? 

post #5 of 25

Congratulations!  You have captured the essence of the Camelback experience.  Love the brown spots and the refrozen granular.

post #6 of 25

+1 on the Elk Recommendation

 

Higher elevation, lower crowds, better terrain & fantastic atmosphere

post #7 of 25
Thread Starter 
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MmmmmX88's.
 

No way I would be on anything that wide.  Those are RX 12 at 70.

 

I do know of Elk. Mo, but it's 1 hour more of driving.  Any steep runs like Cliffhanger?

post #8 of 25

Not sure this is well know, but, C'back is Philpug's boyhood home mountain, he grew up a few miles from there. He told me stories about all-night long ski parties, so, you know he can ski ice. Also, it's where I learned, years ago and prior to Cliffhanger. Strange mountain, steep at very top, all green for the bottom 2/3 of a run.

post #9 of 25
Went to Camelback once.
post #10 of 25

Didn't I ride up with you a few times that night? We chatted about Jay Peak and about putting kids in all day lessons.

 

-Smarty

post #11 of 25
Thread Starter 

Smarty, yup, I do remember you, what a small world man.
 

post #12 of 25

Camelback.  I've been there several time, because it was where my friends ski.  I remember someone warned me about this difficult run.  It's a interesting place.

post #13 of 25

Cliffhanger has one steep section, otherwise it's not that difficult of a run. Marjie's and Rocket are more consistantly steep.

 

That one steep section on Cliffhanger is usually a sheet of ice.  To me, that's what makes it a double-diamond  LOL

 

Yeah, I much prefer Elk.  But most of the Pocono areas are within 35 minutes, Elk is about an hour and a half.  I can go have some fun at the nearby areas and be home by 1:00, since on weekends things get a little too crowded by noontime. Still time to get things done around the house.  But Elk is the place to go if you want moguls (on Upper Tunkhannock)

post #14 of 25

I don't think I have ever seen Camelback that empty. Nice video, I especially liked the night run.

 

If you had 10x the number of other skiers, passed people going down Cliffhanger in wedges, had plenty of fallen boarders ever 100 yards, and threw in a few first time skiers straighlining because they hadn't learned to turn yet, you would have captured the essence of Pocono skiing.

post #15 of 25
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Originally Posted by Living Proof View Post

Not sure this is well know, but, C'back is Philpug's boyhood home mountain, he grew up a few miles from there. He told me stories about all-night long ski parties, so, you know he can ski ice. Also, it's where I learned, years ago and prior to Cliffhanger. Strange mountain, steep at very top, all green for the bottom 2/3 of a run.

Living Proof is correct, camelback was my home mountain as a kid (along with Timber Hill). We did the ole "my mom will drive if your mom picks up" routine. I didn't like over the years as the mountain was homogenized with the trees taken off of The Hump, the turn taken out of the bottom of Margie's and The Asp straightened. Actually the last time I skied Camelback was the first time I skied with people from EpicSki .
post #16 of 25

Rhodedendron Glen used to be one of my favorites, along with the T-bar on Pocono Raceway because the "average" skier there avoided both like the plague.  The trees in R.G. are long gone and the T-bar replaced by a chairlift years ago.  Now if I go there, I'm on first chair and quit by noon.

 

I am now becoming one of those people that ski very infrequently local, and save my time and money for trips out west. 

post #17 of 25
Thread Starter 

^ I have a blast in local places as that's where I get to ski from 9am to 10pm. 

C'back is empty during the week, and that's the only time I ski wherever I go, so the crowd is never a problem for me except Whistler.
 

 

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If you had 10x the number of other skiers, passed people going down Cliffhanger in wedges, had plenty of fallen boarders ever 100 yards, and threw in a few first time skiers straighlining because they hadn't learned to turn yet, you would have captured the essence of Pocono skiing.

Let's just say I did not want to record that :)


Edited by awegrzyn - 1/20/13 at 9:10am
post #18 of 25
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post


Living Proof is correct, camelback was my home mountain as a kid (along with Timber Hill). We did the ole "my mom will drive if your mom picks up" routine. I didn't like over the years as the mountain was homogenized with the trees taken off of The Hump, the turn taken out of the bottom of Margie's and The Asp straightened. Actually the last time I skied Camelback was the first time I skied with people from EpicSki .

 

Back in the day, Margie's, Asp and Hump were about as Gnar as it got in Pa. skiing, on skinny skis. Margies had a spot where there was only one turn available, it was a sheet of ice, and, anyone who could ski had my respect. Yup, they've all been regraded and widened, still the steepest runs in eastern Pa., but, nowhere near what they were. I do like vsirin's description above, the lady called this one right, especially at Camelback's very narrow runs. 

 

Phil - Sometimes you can't go home again!

 

vsirin wrote:

If you had 10x the number of other skiers, passed people going down Cliffhanger in wedges, had plenty of fallen boarders ever 100 yards, and threw in a few first time skiers straighlining because they hadn't learned to turn yet, you would have captured the essence of Pocono skiing.

post #19 of 25

Actually, I think the steepest run in eastern PA is White Lightening at Sno Mtn.

post #20 of 25
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Actually, I think the steepest run in eastern PA is White Lightening at Sno Mtn.

I've almost never been to Sno, so, you may very well be correct.

post #21 of 25

I don't know if White Lightning is objectively the steepest, it may well be. But it is one of the most demanding (it has been 6 or 7 years) as I recall it has a pretty severe double fall line, bumps, trees right up to the very edge on both sides, typically pretty bad conditions in terms of ice and bumps with all the snow worn away, and worst of all very high traffic of skiers who are frequently in over their heads on the trail. I have found it scary because of the other skiers. I once was almost taken out by someone behind flying off a bump, crashing and almost hitting me as he flew/slid into the trees. That was I think the last time I skied that trail

post #22 of 25

I thought the steepest run was something at Denton, but that's an old discussion.

 

Skied CB for 27 years, had a place on the hill there.  Can't say I miss it.  The Siblet learned to ski there and was a member of the CAT team, had to unlearn all they taught her when she moved West.  

 

Incredibly, shared those 125 acres with 10,000 skiers every weekend and now CAN'T STAND sharing 3,000 acres with 4,000 skiers.  Went home early today and it looked like this:

 

post #23 of 25

Gee sibhusky, you sure have it tough...LOL.  Definitely jealous of what you have out there.

 

Denton may have something steeper, but that's in western PA.  Never been there, but I am trying to hit some of the PA areas I have never been to.  Now if we can just get some decent snowmaking weather (never mind snow...)

 

vsirin, I think you are thinking of the next run over, Boomer, which has double fall lines.  White Lightining is a straight shot down. And steeper

post #24 of 25
Actually, Denton Hill is in North Central PA, and the steep run is called "Avalanche". Denton is where I first learned to ski as a teenager, but I haven't been back there since the late 80's. Would love to head back up there and check it out again 25+ years later.

Just skied one of the other steep PA runs today. Extrovert at Blue Knob was in fine form and skied great! Opened for the first time yesterday, and skied well today, but will be a bumped up icy beast in a few days!

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Denton may have something steeper, but that's in western PA. 
post #25 of 25

I do recall Upper Gunbarrel and Ramrod at Roundtop were fairly steep. 

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