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post #1 of 26
Thread Starter 

This has to be the best kept secret out there, I have finally found my 1 ski quiver, the Fischer Motive 88 is a really nice ski so far here on the east coast, hold an edge very well, carve well short or wide turns, good on the bumps, plow over the crud, light and you can turn them up when ever you want, all around fun. Took my Motive 80 C-Line, Motive 84 C-Line and the Motive 88 to have them waxed and pick up my new Atomic Hawx 110 boots to my local ski shop ALPINE SKI SHOP and the owner whom I have known for about 5 years now, told me right off to get rid of the Motive 84 C-Line because of the weight and to ski the Motive 88, well I had to find out on my own, 1st few trips went out early am and tried all three, my 3rd trip out I have been in the Motive 88's since and have sold the other 2 pairs and I'm completely happy. I don't know why the Motive 88 isn't a poplar ski, but I give it 5 stars and once again "POWDER 7" did again for me.

post #2 of 26

hey daybreak i'm curious, does the motive 88 have metal in it at all or is it strictly wood and carbon like the c-line models?  dave

post #3 of 26
Thread Starter 

The Motive 88's are wood and carbon, the more I ski  them the more I like them!

post #4 of 26

The 2011  84 Motive C-Line is  a fantastic ski. I picked up a pair based on dawgcatching's excellent review. Curious to know what the issue is with the weight? I find the ski to be very light and lively as opposed to heavy and damp like my AC50s or Tigersharks. Took some getting used to but in the end made me a more creative skier. I've collapsed my 3 pair quiver down to a single pair as I simply enjoy  skiing the  motives more than the others. My only complaints are that the top sheets are  fragile and I also lost a  'cosmetic' part of the binding within a few days of skiing.


I highly recommend  dawgcatching's excellent mid fat ski review.

post #5 of 26
Thread Starter 

The Motive 88 has the rocker which the Motive 84 C-Line doesn't and there is a big difference in weight between the 2, the 84 C-Line IMHO is an upgraded version of The Cold Heat, the Motive 88 has just taken my skiing to another level with the combination of my new Atomic Hawx 110 ski boots.

post #6 of 26

Thanks for posting more info on these skis.  I'm another east coaster that takes a few trips out west a year.  I am currently torn between getting the Motive 84s and Blizzard Bushwackers, and now I'm intrigued by the Motive 88s.   I've demoed the Bushwackers and liked them a lot, but have a feeling that the Motive 84s (which I can get for a fair amount less) would fit my needs just as well.


Have either of you demoed the Bushwackers for a comparison to the Motive 84s or 88s?

post #7 of 26

I  would love to try out the 88s  but  unfortunately the Fischer brand is very difficult to come by  in my neck of the woods. Yes, I think you are correct in your assumption  that the 84s are an  upgrade of the cold heat. I  tried the Volkl RTM 84 last year and found the rocker to be a bit peculiar in that it tended to waggle in crud(spring) at high speed  but can see that it would excel in deeper now conditions.  Glad to hear that you found a good setup. I am considering replacing my Lange WC 120 for something a little more  stance neutral while maintaining the 120 flex. All in all the though the 84s made me a believer in that a mid fat ski can  really do the job and still perform like champions on the groomed runs. 

post #8 of 26

I almost bought these but ended up going with the Rossi Basalt 82's.  Also a decision i would not regret.  However, all of the reviews and everyone I have talked too speaks very highly of the 88's, so a win win for the both of us!

post #9 of 26

I am thinking of pullin the trigger on these....


5-10 168lbs level 8 skier

East coast (west 1x per year)

Prefer glades/natural trails w/ bumps (think Mad River Glen)

Get forced to ski groomers because of conditions at times


I currently ride on 2010 Atomic Blackeye Ti's 168cm


Im looking for a ski that fits my needs a bit better; plus the Atomic's are on thier last legs (Prob about 100 trips on them)


Any new input about these skis?


I want: a light ski, that turns quick, can float a little better, and can catch an edge. I dont want a super demanding ski and at times, like to take it easy..



post #10 of 26

I have nothing to say at all about the Fischers but you might want to consider the Volkl RTM84.  Based on what you say you want, I think these might be a good fit.  I demoed them at Snowbasin on Wednesday and went into it prepared to dislike them.  I skied some full rocker Volkl skis, Gotamas maybe, a few years ago and absolutely hated them.  I never felt like I was in control.  The RTM84s truly surprised me in a good way.  They were very responsive, held an edge well on the groomers, didn't get knocked around by the piles of loose snow, handled bumps easily and should provide good float because of the rocker.  This is a ski I could own and be happy skiing it.  It is pretty easy to find them to demo.

post #11 of 26
Originally Posted by daybreak View Post

The Motive 88 has the rocker which the Motive 84 C-Line doesn't and there is a big difference in weight between the 2, the 84 C-Line IMHO is an upgraded version of The Cold Heat, the Motive 88 has just taken my skiing to another level with the combination of my new Atomic Hawx 110 ski boots.


Thanks for all the info on the Motiv 88 !


A couple Q's

What size did you ski in the Cold Heats and what size are your 88s?

Besides weight, are there any other obvious differences (betweeen those 2) for you?


post #12 of 26

Im still looking for a little more feedback on the motive. Do you have flat ski bindings??

post #13 of 26
Originally Posted by daybreak View Post

 there is a big difference in weight between the 2, the 84 C-Line IMHO is an upgraded version of The Cold Heat,

I don't have any experience with the 88 but I thought the Motive 84 was excessively heavy for a 160lb skier like me.  Initially,  I thought it was due to the binding system but I really don't know.

post #14 of 26

I recently acquired a pair of these skis in the 184cm length with a set of tyrolia LD12's from levelninesports and took them out to Jasper's marmot basin. Fairly easy mountain, but I skied as hard as I could. The conditions I came across were icy, well-groomed, crud and powder, so some of everything. The motive 88's were really solid on groomers, you had to go really quite fast to get them to chatter. They held an edge well on icey conditions, but their edge wasn't holding as well as some other skis might. They would slide in the really open icy spots, but that may also be due to my weight (225lbs, 6'3'').


Powder was noteworthy. These skis aren't wide enough to be called powder skis, however, the rocker in the skis was very apparent and made for an easier float on top of the powder I encountered (~25cm dump). Staying on top of the powder did require some user effort, but less than expected!


Where these skis shone was the mid-level crud. They chopped up crud for excellent responsive carving. No complaints there, nothing but praise. 


In decent mogul conditions, these skis had an awesome amount of flex, popped me through them with an adequate amount of grip. 


Now I should make it clear that I don't know the terminology as well as I might need to to adequately review these skis, but the overall impression is that they are surprisingly light on the feet given their size, have a good amount of flex, and really do satisfy most of the terrain you'll encounter on the mountain. Not a powder ski, not a racer, but it will take you everywhere imbetween enjoyably

post #15 of 26
Thread Starter 

Sounds to me that you described the Motive 88 to a tee, I'm 5'11", 205 lbs and I love to be able to go anywhere with ease, I have found myself really skiing these skis really hard and that hold up well. I'm skiing this in a 176 and I skied a 170 in the cold heats, my current motive's hold in ice well for me, now the motive 80 c-line seemed like that where attracted to ice, never have skied a ski that holds like they do in ice, but the 88's offer so much more in a ski.

post #16 of 26

I ended up purchasing a pair of 88s @176 in length. I am currently skiing  the 84 C-Line @168 which I love...but are falling apart :( I will post a comparative review after I've skied them.

post #17 of 26

just came back from a 3 day session at mammoth - my shake-down session for my new Fischer Motive 88's in 176.

I'll do a full review when time allows; but in a nut shell I came away really liking the the ski.

Initially (the first morning) I was a bit frustrated by the short length and the 'early rise'. But once I made some adjustments to both the boot position and ski technique, I warmed up to what the ski could do, and by the 3rd day felt very comfortable on them. I think I came away with accepting that I got/am getting what I wanted from them - A shorter, easier going ski without being limited to shorter turns or slower skiing. They're good for conditions which might have more unavoidable heavy bump sections than what I normally ride, and still have enough guts to do well in off-piste steeps, track well thru crud, hold pretty well on real hard surfaces and cruise groomers with some casual confidence.

Anyway, I like em, especially once I eased off on driving the tips too hard and after moving my boot/Ball O Foot location back 1.5 cm.

Nice center balance position, with a light touch on forward or rear pressure seems to get them thru everything. and this 176 length is a way easy turner. Haven't skied bumps this well/hard in over 10 years! They edge really well enough to give confidence to get your feet out from under you and 'separate' enough to crank turns on varaible terrain - once I stopped being too heavy handed...

Crank em over on edge and happily plow through just about anything at reasonable Big Turn speeds. Run them totally 'flat', with no edging and expect some 'swimming', but nothing which felt unstable.

Like em enough to decide to take them on my trip to SLC/The Bird/Alta at the end of the week.  They'll do fine out there.

post #18 of 26

Sounds like you've struck gold with these Fischer Motive 88's. I am very interested in a 88mm 1 ski quiver, but I simply can't find any information on them online. On the Fischer website I can only find the current Motive 86's (and 80's etc.), the only Motive 88 that Google spits out are 2011 models. Are they the skis you're so enthusiatic about? I don't think they have rocker, so I'm not sure.


Anyone has a link to these Motive 88's? Thanks.

post #19 of 26

per the fischer homepage, the new motive 86 has "all mountain" rocker

and powder 7 has em available for $450.


Nice thing is they come flat compared to last years 88's so one can use the binding of their choice to ensure proper ramp etc.

but, it appears tom does have the fischer 88's available at dw skis.

post #20 of 26

Thanks, I already thought the current 86's were the ski's every one was so enthusiastic about. 

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post #22 of 26

The Motive 88s are last season's ski, and not continued into this year 12/13. I wouldn;t know why that is, but my best guess is sales for the model were not as expected. Fischer, although a big brand in Europe, is not a major player in the US. I think they overburden their US market with way too many models, relative to the sales, and confuse both the dealer ( in deciding what to put into store stock) and the consumer (so many models and then it's hard to get enough publicity for any one model to make sales worthwhile).

As for the difference between the 88 and the 86 - I wouldn't have first hand there, but the 88 is carbon/woodcore and the 86 has 2 layers of metal, which, to my mind, would give very different characteristics.

I can only compare to my current skis, which are all full camber; and the few 'early rise' models I've demo'd (which includes the similar DIMS watea...) Compared to the watea, the 88 is more 'traditional' in charateristics, a strong tail allowing more energy/quickness to complete the turn; something I didn't get from the Watea.

The 88 does have a slight edge of 'forgiveness' compared to high performance full camber skis, which not only keeps it fun but also makes it a better bump ski than, say, my metal Fischer Cold Heats (full camber). How well it does that really surprised me.

And it can also haul some freight, if I need to bash thru some clumpy stuff or you want to just let it run. Again, surprising how easily it can change it's character.

As for POW, I can't really say yet. By the time I got to last week's 'dump' (Mammoth claimed 17" in. between 6th-9th, seemed more like 10-12" total to me...) it was all heavily tracked and some was badly windblown from a high wind day. But based on the grabby conditions and the cement on the south side of the mtn, it seems likely these will do quite fine in some decent depth of POW.

Once I found the 'ON' switch, I started appreciating the diversity they brought to the game. Not sure about 'Gold', but they are definitely a 'keeper' for me. Now I can unload my older, longer, less mogul friendly K2 Outlaws, next season, and still feel I'm well covered, and then some...

post #23 of 26
Originally Posted by SHREDHEAD View Post

New $347 shipped.,default,pd.html


Thinking of getting the wife a pair of 160's?

seems like a great buy!

depending on what she weighs and how she skis...

a light skier might wanna bring a solid game to this.

it initiates turns really easily (for me), but press that tail a bit, then expect a fast finish...

take my opnion with a grain of salt - if I'm not sweating, I'm not goin hard enough...

but they really have a playful side to them...  YMMV

post #24 of 26

Pulled the trigger on a pair of Motive 88s from Level Nine Sports.  Had been looking to see what deats came up this spring and considering skis like the Rossi E88, Head Rev 85, and Dynastar Outland 87.   At $348 with mounted bindings and free shipping, it was too good to pass up.


This review on pretty much described what I was looking for perfectly.


"A new ski from Fischer for 2012: the Motive 88 is a supremely versatile all-mountain ski. Rockered tip with significant rise enhances this ski's ability to get free of cruddy, heavy snow. It also helps the ski flex in bumps. Weight of the ski is on the light side, but with the addition of the carbon laminate, it has tons of grip. Very playful in bumps and trees, good float and stability in soft snow. It also has an ease about it that can go slow or fast: perfect for the skier looking for a ski equally at home at higher speeds and in tight, technical spaces. Groomer performance is also above average. The Motive 88 grips well, has power packed into the tail, but isn't overly damp or dead. Instead, it has a lot of life and energy, and maintains the Fischer tradition of lively all-mountain skis, started (and continued) by the outstanding Watea series. The Motive series is a little stiffer, a little more hard snow oriented than the Watea, but from the same lineage and ideas about how a ski should perform."

post #25 of 26

Yah, I just bough these from level9 as well.    I've only have 1 day on them, level 8 and am recovering from injury.   They're a bit softer then i expected, should be good in bumps but not a leader on our east coast east pack.  They do seem to have a lot of spring, and carve well, but then again, I'm the type that is not into sharpening, so it could just be that I actually have a ski with an edge on it for once.   From the description of the tip rocker, these are left and right specific, bit I don't see that the skis are marked as such. Am I missing something here?

post #26 of 26
Originally Posted by zafdor View Post

... They're a bit softer then i expected, should be good in bumps but not a leader on our east coast east pack.  They do seem to have a lot of spring, and carve well, but then again, I'm the type that is not into sharpening, so it could just be that I actually have a ski with an edge on it for once.   From the description of the tip rocker, these are left and right specific, bit I don't see that the skis are marked as such. Am I missing something here?


if you have adjustable bindings on them, reset the boot 1 cm back and then give them a try.

I found the same initial lack of bite when on consistent boilerplate. I settled at -1.5cm and still like their soft snow and bump characteristics... And the carve edging on the very hard surface is now quite good - this after 9 days on them in conditions from boilerplate all the way to just below the knee POW...

I would suspect that experimenting with boot location can be a very worthwhile exercise with any early-rise ski, if one wants to find the best characteristics for their particular taste.

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