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post #1 of 8
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I am thinking about entering a SuperG race in a few weeks and some concerns have been brought to my attention.  Since there are so many ex-racers and coaches on this board I was hoping that someone could help answer my questions.  I have raced for my high school team for the past 2 years in NJ as well as this year.  I am also doing USSA racing this year and there is an upcoming race SuperG at Gore.  In talking about it a few "red flags" were raised that I don't have the experience to answer myself so I was wondering if you could help.

 

I have never raced or trained SuperG.  I am aware that SuperG is very different from GS (both course layout and speed).  There is a one day "speed camp" the day before the race.  Would this be adequate to learn how to race SuperG?

 

Because SuperG is so different will racing it "throw off" my technique and mess me up for GS and/or slalom?

 

Thanks in advance for any and all help.  Much appreciated.

post #2 of 8

Everyone has to start somewhere. The course at Gore (assuming it's on Twister...) is super mellow, fast, and fun. It's a great place to get into speed.

 

Will you "learn how" to race Super G in a day? Of course not. It's a very tricky discipline with a lot of challenges, both mental and physical. But it's enough to learn the basics, get used to prejumping/pressing airs, understand the different dynamics of turns at speed, and get used to speed skis, as well as learn some of the safety stuff (i.e. getting flagged off course, etc.).

 

It won't hurt your GS and SL ... if anything it will help your GS and SL as you get used to higher speeds, absorbing terrain, and carrying speed.

 

Go for it. Gore's a fun place.

post #3 of 8

Speed Camp? Absolutely! Adequate? This should give you the fundamentals you need to ski it safely and familiarize yourself with the discipline. Just remember there is no substitute for training. Will you be competitive? Maybe. Will you win? Doubtful, but it will give you valuable experience. Will Super G racing hurt your GS and Slalom technique? No, but it may improve your GS. Good Luck and have fun!!

 

Karl

post #4 of 8

yup, go for it!  as has been pointed out it will help you get used to carrying more speed in a course. The one day camp is a good start.  Other thing to remember is that for super g, understanding teh terrain features and the necessary line is critical.  As you inspect, look 2-3 gates behind you to work out the line.

post #5 of 8

I've run a few and they are a combination of fun and slightly scary. Twister would be a great hill to run one on! Our local Masters SG was cancelled last weekend due to the warm temps, so I won't get a chance this year unless I go to the regionals, which is doubtful.

 

You may want to try to beg, borrow, steal or buy a pair of SG skis. You'll be surprised at how much more damp and stable they are even compared to a longer pair of GS skis (note-I haven't skied the current FIS spec GS skis). There are usually quite a few around with little wear-most folks don't get much of a chance to use them and they change little from year to year other than the graphics.

post #6 of 8

The speed camp sounds good. I did that last year and it was very helpful since true SG training is very hard to arrange. I think its pritty similair to GS except much faster.

 

You need SG skis. There is a huge difference between 190 GS skis and 210 SG skis. 20 cm is a lot. Its much more stable. I have a pair of this years womens WC GS skis and I was playing with the thaught of trying them for a turny SG course if one comes along but for a true SG course the real thing is the way to go. I had no problems snaking down the track. You can get old ones very cheap. They are usually in great shape because they are used so seldome.

post #7 of 8

You need a Super G ski, and I'd say it ought to be a 201 or bigger. I use a 201 SG for turny SG courses, a 205SG for open SG courses, and a 210 SG for Master's DH courses. A one day speed camp will help, but it won't really teach you how to race a speed event.  Try to find the USSA Alpine Fundamentals DVD for some concepts and drills, and also see the following:

 

 

http://www.rdbriggs.com/rmm/public_site/articles/RMalm-2001-10-DayJob.pdf

 

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post #8 of 8

I can tell you from my experience in speed skiing (which is far more than most people here), there are a few major keys to doing well in an event and having fun. Having the basic skill set for ski racing is a must, as well as having the balls to go all out. More importantly, you must be relatively familiar with the terrain that you will be racing on, and how to use the terrain to your advantage. It is nice here in the East because there are only a few places to run SG and DH, with a majority of events either being at Okemo, Sugarloaf, or MSA.

 

I've seen several people who aren't all that great dominate on specific hills in speed events due to the fact that they know what the race is going to be like before showing up. I've also seen some phenomenal tech racers struggle and get their asses kicked because they aren't familiar with the terrain. Yea, they give you inspection runs, but having previous experience on the hill is far more useful to most. You don't necessarily have to possess previous race runs on the hill; simply knowing the terrain features, such as knolls/rollers, double fall line areas, and jumps will help.

 

THE most important thing though is to BE FAMILIAR with the equipment that you will be racing on. It doesn't matter how good you are or how well you know the hill, if you haven't been on speed skis before the race day you will be screwed and are setting yourself up for both injury and failure. I know it is kind of hard, but try to get out on your hill with your long skis as much as you can. Do GS turns on them, practice tucking, and get familiar with air time if possible. Getting runs in not only benefits you, but it also benefits the skis. Use freeskiing time to run and break the skis in.

 

Have fun and be safe.

 

-RTTT

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