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post #31 of 37
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post


Thanks

 

Good idea for most folks, but I'd rather chip my topsheets up a little than damage/dent my aluminum poles or ding the edges of the skis on the metal poles.

Why not just leave it alone?

 

I realize when I first showed up here I too started some absurd threads, but the number of absurd threads here never ceases to amaze me.  How dare my razor sharp steel edges chip off some top sheet when I clank them together.  The "I think this might be an issue for the supreme court" sums up my feelings about this.  JC.

post #32 of 37
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I don't think it's an absurd thread when I've been skiing for over 30 years and have never seen this type of ski damage, though as I've said, I never had skis with a metal laminate topsheet and that's why I started the thread. Again, it's also not chipping it's peeling at an increased rate without any contact.  As to the supreme court, there's already a pretty established area of law on product defect and product design issues and this absurd thread helped me to understand that it's probably not a defect issue, possibly a design issue, and likely not worth pursuing any further. 

post #33 of 37
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Originally Posted by guroo270 View Post

Why not just leave it alone?

The extra weight of the snow on my skis bothers me when I'm not using a footrest in the lifts.  I'd rather chip up my topsheets a little than feel the extra pull on my feet.  Using the poles helps some, but it's just so much easier to crack the ankles of my boots together as the lift is leaving the wheelhouse.  Yes, it definitely chips up the skis.  Years ago I remember looking at them and wondering if I really crossed my skis that much???  Then, it occurred to me that the clanking them together on the lift is what causes those chips along the edges.  I'm too old to really care that much what my skis look like anymore.

post #34 of 37
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Originally Posted by Whiteroom View Post

The iM series and Supershape series of 'Liquid Metal' skis were known for having very fragile topsheets. They do get shredded, as you are seeing. A simple measure to help prevent some of this is profiling the top edge of the ski. Take a file at a 45* angle to the top edge of the ski and bevel this area so it is a smooth and round, this way the edge has less to 'grab' and will chip much less.


Hand finish the top edge to ease the top sheet material so there is no sharp edge left. Just like you'd hand finish your base edges on new skis for a correct angle. The manufacturer can't put the time into that step, though, as WR has said, it is a good measure against top sheet chipping due to edge crossing. Why haven't you commented on WR's post, the most useful in the thread?  I'm curious, did you work on the ski with a file?

post #35 of 37

I can remember one of the first time I purchased new skis the sales person tried to add on something similar to this.  I'm actually pretty surprised that it still sells.  I can remember seeing ski that had it turned yellow under the tape after a few months (or years?)

 

Top Sheet Ski & Snowboard Skuff Saver Tape

 

I don't think that would do much to save the stuff chipping off metal.  It would just be chips flopping around clinging to the tape.  Metal expands and contracts too much for glue or contact cement to really hold as well as it does to wood or fiberglass. 

post #36 of 37

Correct boot alignment and cant will help develop a stance that is shoulder width and prevent constant ski to ski banging, as will adopting a modern technique.  Old school poor technique of locking the knees together is hell on skis.

post #37 of 37
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post

The extra weight of the snow on my skis bothers me when I'm not using a footrest in the lifts.  I'd rather chip up my topsheets a little than feel the extra pull on my feet.  Using the poles helps some, but it's just so much easier to crack the ankles of my boots together as the lift is leaving the wheelhouse.  Yes, it definitely chips up the skis.  Years ago I remember looking at them and wondering if I really crossed my skis that much???  Then, it occurred to me that the clanking them together on the lift is what causes those chips along the edges.  I'm too old to really care that much what my skis look like anymore.

Think of it as exercise.  My feet always cramp from the weight early season, but by leaving the snow on there early season I get over it more quickly.

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