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So I just got back into skiing after about a 19 years, old gear was Kinesel 170 from the late 80's, that being said I read alot of reviews looking for updated gear, at the time I last ski'd probably around "93" I felt like I was pretty good and had all intentions on buying bigger skis. Anyway, I'm 41 about 6', 235, and ended up buying a pair of "07" Volkl Unlimited AC3 Titanium in 184 length, I ski'd them for about 3 days on groomers in Wisconsin and they didn't feel to bad but I felt like I really had to fight them to turn, I don't know a lot about skis, learning more every day via web (LOL). I thought well maybe they are to big for me so I bought a pair of "09" Volkl Unlimited AC's in 170's for a great price, I have not ski'd them yet but as I read and watch you tube reviews they sound like they may not be enough ski for me. I like the Volkl's and no I have not tried anything else. Just wondering if the AC2/20 would be a better fit or if I should look for AC3 in the 170 or 177 range, I really need some expert help.

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My old AC30's, (same as the AC3's), required almost perfect technique or they didn't perform well.  The 184 length is about right.  Since you haven't skied almost 20 years, it could have been your technique more than the skis.  That being said, the newer generation skis would be a lot more fun for you.  Things have changed in ski construction.

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The AC series weren't such great skis in any of their iterations, but sometimes there were fan-boys here that would recommend them for EVERYTHING, ALL THE TIME apparently believing they were all mountain (OK, maybe for Ohio "mountains"). They're very stiff, and generally one-tick ponies, as carvers, and not much else.

 

If you want to continue with vintage gear, Dynastar 4800 or 8000's, or the later Sultan series could be a good choice. Lately the K2 Rictor has been OK, but stay away from the older Recons, which, like the AC's were devoid of life and any form of playfulness.

 

At the end of the day, demo'ing is your friend. You'll find something you love.

post #4 of 9

Skiing has changed a lot since '93, I'd guess you are trying to steer the ski by twisting the ski instead of tipping the ski and adding pressure to create turn shape. A lesson will go much further than buying different skis, it will also be cheaper and more rewarding.

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The 184's and 170's are no older than 6 years old and bother look as if they hadn't been used much, just wondering if the 184 AC3 are to much, or the AC Unlimited 170's are not enough?

post #6 of 9

Pretty hard to say what ski is good for anyone but one set I have is a pair of ac50 Unlimited For those days with highly variable conditions ie: a foot fresh, slop, crud, ice, bumps, they will blast  thru it well  but to get those results requires a lot of work and no cruise control. They are tiring. There are a lot of other softer lighter wider choices that might make your return to skiing easier. I would not recommend them for bottomless or heavy powder if that is common in your area.

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Thanks all, I guess I'll book a lesson and see how it goes from there, I pretty much ski in the midwest, Wisconsin, Michigan, Iowa, on the groomers so time and patience will tell, or you may see 2 pair of skis up for sale and me looking for a different set up, I'm going to tuff it out this season with what I have now. I tried the ski calc on line and one said the 184's the other said 170 for groomers, you think a 177 may be a better fit??? I plan on heading out to Breckenridge over Christmas 2013 so I'd like to have the right set up by then, I'm open to suggestions.


Edited by toxtreme - 1/13/13 at 9:48pm
post #8 of 9

Again I have no idea how well you ski but just reread your size and weight - 170 seems short to me, I tired 170 177 184 and took the 177 but I am

70 lbs lighter,  my ski buddy who is close to your size picked the 184. I did not find the 170 any quicker edge to edge and the 177 gave more float and stability 184 was more ski than my size needed.

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So I just got back into skiing after about a 19 years, old gear was Kinesel 170 from the late 80's, that being said I read alot of reviews looking for updated gear, at the time I last ski'd probably around "93" I felt like I was pretty good and had all intentions on buying bigger skis. Anyway, I'm 41 about 6', 235, and ended up buying a pair of "07" Volkl Unlimited AC3 Titanium in 184 length, I ski'd them for about 3 days on groomers in Wisconsin and they didn't feel to bad but I felt like I really had to fight them to turn, I don't know a lot about skis, learning more every day via web (LOL). I thought well maybe they are to big for me so I bought a pair of "09" Volkl Unlimited AC's in 170's for a great price, I have not ski'd them yet but as I read and watch you tube reviews they sound like they may not be enough ski for me. I like the Volkl's and no I have not tried anything else. Just wondering if the AC2/20 would be a better fit or if I should look for AC3 in the 170 or 177 range, I really need some expert help.

You have the right ski.  You just need to stop fighting them and work with them.  Roll the skis up onto their edges and pressure the tips and they will want to turn all by themselves.  Control how much they turn by how much you tip them and pressure the tips.  Don't try to make them turn more than they want to; make them want to turn more by tipping them more.

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