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Fischer RX8s and Japan powder: compatible or a waste of time?

post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 

Hi all,

 

I'm looking for some advice.  I have a pair of Fischer RX8 (produced in the mid 2000's) that I am planning to take with me to Niseko, Japan.  They are quite narrow under foot but wide in the tips and tail (see dimesions below).   Can anyone comment on whether these skis will float in the powder, or will they - like other carve skis - just result in me sinkling waste deep into the snow..... Someone once mentiond that although the RX8s were designed as a carve ski, the width of the tip and tail help them to perform well in the powder.....  

 

Ski dimentions

 

Radius: 12 m

Tip: 116 mm

Width under foot: 66 mm

Tail: 98 mm

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Dr C

post #2 of 12

Oh boy... I can't think of a type of ski I'd rather have less than what you're proposing for typical conditions there.

 

Minimum underfoot for Niseko, 98'ish mm.  Try 115-120 for best results.  

post #3 of 12
Thread Starter 

Hmm ok. Thought I'd ask anyway.

post #4 of 12
Depends. If you only intend to ski the blue trails then you will get by.
Many locals still get around on carvers and I've even seen snowblades being used between storms

Skis in the 100-115 range make the best all rounders for Niseko. However you could take your skinny skis and ret some fat skis post storm.

My advice wold be to forget the rx8's and rent when you get there. In fact sell the RX8's. Being a Perth lad you will most probably never ski in Oz again after Japan. Value for mony thing.
post #5 of 12

The topskins on the RX-8's are notorious for peeling off.  Probably not going to get much for them, so might as well hang on to them.  But yeah, not the tool for powder.

post #6 of 12
Thread Starter 

Ok, next question. 

 

I assume not every day in Japan will be an epic powder day (going to Niseko).  What about on piste skiing in anything up to 10-15 cm of fresh?  Will the RX8s cut it then, or should I still look to hire some mid-fats.  I just wanted to check and ensure the comments here are not all based on the assumption I'll be skiing after a 25 cm + storm.

 

Your probably wondering why I am bothering asking the question given I will likely aim to hire on powder days anyway.  And we will most certainly hire fat skis when we take a guided tour off piste....My anxiety comes from the fact that I am truly addicted to the performance of the RX8s on piste (where I spend most of my time), and I really don't want to compromise this too much by going for a mid fat, when the RX8s will do just fine. 

 

If I am still way off the mark, can anyone recommend a nice compromise i.e. a very good mid fat that will hold a strong edge on the groomers.

 

I read 'Physicsman's' comments on weight and floatation in powder. If it helps, I weigh about 75kg, an am ~163 cm tall.

 

Thanks in advance

 

Dr C

post #7 of 12

I don't know what sort of snow conditions you are used to skiing.  A skilled skier can certainly make RX8's work in deeper snow, but if you're not used to skiing powder, a much, much wider ski will make your life infinitely easier.  Even 10, 15cm will ski much differently then you might expect if you're used to more packed conditions.

post #8 of 12

Blizzard 8.5ti would get you the carving power you want and do very very well for your size, weight, and typical piste conditions at Niseko AND do well enough in that 10cm your talking about. If it's a big day, then demo/rent something wider.

post #9 of 12
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Originally Posted by markojp View Post

Blizzard 8.5ti would get you the carving power you want and do very very well for your size, weight, and typical piste conditions at Niseko AND do well enough in that 10cm your talking about. If it's a big day, then demo/rent something wider.

 

To the OP

 

You aren't much bigger than me, I was skiing the 8.5ti in up to a foot of light new snow last spring (30cm) so yeah, that is a good choice for a lot of days.  Rent wider skis if a big storm comes in. 

post #10 of 12

I had a pair of RX8s and found them fine in up to 6-8 inches of fresh snow.  Above that a wider ski will definitely be more fun.  Hey, I learned to ski powder on straight skinny slalom race skis many years ago.  The RX8 is a wide powder ski compared to them.

post #11 of 12
Bottom line is you are paying decent coin to ski in one of the snowiest ski hills on the planet. Why lessen the experience by using skis that will get by.
I just had a look at Larry Adlers current rental prices (they are the cheapest). For 10 days of platinum ski rental at $415 you have a wide range of skis to try out. Models listed in the link

http://www.larryadler.com/docs/skipackage39.pdf

From experience I know that some of the really popular models will be hard to book eg I was unable to rent Gotamas last time I was there because they were so popular. However, since you are a little bloke younshould have a much larger range to choose from as you can generally get by with h less popular smaller lengths.

Cheers
post #12 of 12
Thread Starter 

Thanks Craigr,

 

Good advice.  I had actually heard that booking the demo or platimun range in advance did not guarantee the skis you wanted,and I must admit that it did concern me a little. But, I had not factored in that I can generally get away with shorter skis than the average bloke.

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