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Anybody tried rolfing? I have. I had my first session last week. What is rolfing? Well, it's kind of hard to explain. I thought of it as a hard-core massage, but it's really more like realigning your body. http://www.rolf.org I decided to give it a try because I've been unable to get my boot alignment to where I want it. I thought hey, maybe it's me and not my boots. I've been having a hard time with being able to stand on my left leg while skiing. I have a 1.5 deg. cant on that foot which felt right on Wednesday but felt wrong on Thursday after the session. So as far as I can tell, it is working. I have another session to go and will then reassess my canting needs.

post #2 of 11

Shouldn't we move this to the fitness forum?


According to my totally unscientific study - rolfing, massage, accupuncture, chiropractic, kinesiology, osteopathic medicine, pilates and to some extent physical therapy, yoga and orthopaedic surgery are all going after the same thing through different methods. I have not personally tried rolfing, but I have heard it described as like "intense" message (more than deep tissue message). Deep tissue message leaves me sore for a couple days. I have had my chiropractor perform intense massage (to "break" a cramped muscle)  to the point where I experienced tunnel vision and he praised me for not screaming. The more I study this stuff, the more impressed I get (despite my fond naming of the discipline of quackopractice).


My 2 cents is that the quality of the practitioner is paramount and almost totally subjective. The only objective quality I've discovered is how much time is spent on continuing education. The good ones that I've found are doing some kind of additional training at least once/month. Word of mouth and "trial and error" seem to be the most common method for finding the right method and the right practitioner. As best as I can tell, picking a method and a practitioner is a crap shoot for whether you achieve success or not, but when you do find success it is often a miracle.

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Originally Posted by TheRusty View Post

... As best as I can tell, picking a method and a practitioner is a crap shoot for whether you achieve success or not...

I think this is true, and also do think that all these soft-tissue modalities can work with the right practitioner.  I've had massage in a PT context work, and also had yoga work.  I also think that many more people think they are helped by these things, than are, witness the bad posture of most people in yoga classes, many yoga instructors included.


It can relate to either fitness or instruction forums imo.  If you've had the experience of telling people to get forward on skis, or trying to show someone good toeside posture on a board, and seeing that many people may simply not have the ability to physically move into those positions...well, a lot of people could benefit from some freeing up of range of movement, along with appropriate core strengthening at the same time. 

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Originally Posted by TheRusty View Post

Shouldn't we move this to the fitness forum?


I thought of putting it there, or the gear forum. Could go in any of them really, it's how my body interacts with my gear and how that affects my skiing.

post #5 of 11
Originally Posted by epic       "What is rolfing?'


The explanation I like is that Rolfing is to muscles what Chiropractic is to bones. I went through the basic series of 10 and was done, rather then the seemingly endless treadmill of chiropractic visits many get involved in..


Although I noticed a change in the wear pattern on my shoes, I don't recall any change in my skiing.


My wife on the other hand went from a 4.5 and a 3 degree cant to not needing any.


Enjoy the process...particularly session 7or 8 as I recall.   

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Yikes! That sounds ominous...

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Originally Posted by Dave W View Post



My wife on the other hand went from a 4.5 and a 3 degree cant to not needing any....

That is very cool.

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OK, so being a Rolfer, I'll give you some info there.

Rolfing is not massage. We work with the connective tissue, neuro-muscular system, vascular/neural, etc., very little muscle manipulation.

We work with what is limiting the muscle's ability to function efficiently and effectively.

We balance the tensional relationships throughout the body so that when muscles contract, their antagonists extend evenly.

As far as the feet go, a couple of thoughts.

In our view, the feet begin at the knees. 28 bones and over 100 muscles, tendons and ligaments create a lot of room for imbalance and compensation for those imbalances and injuries.

Foot dysfunctions can be traced to the ankles, knees, hips, back, neck and vice versa.

Rolfing will balance the structures and give room to develop new and more integrated movement patterns.

So, if you have orthotics and you put your feet back into the old boots with them after your session, it will bring you back to the old pattern and that work and $ is somewhat wasted.

Same with heat fitted liners. Your feet are going to change and will require a change in the liner. Form follows function follows form follows function and so on........

After a session, if you want to ski the next day, start with easy runs and your cleanest, purest technique and slowly pick up the speed and difficulty-this is a time for teaching.

Don't drop Corbet's at Jackson Hole first thing.

This work along with Alexander Technique transformed my tele-skiing and does the same with alpine technique.

Enjoy and powder to the people.


post #9 of 11

Welcome M and thanks for joining our little community! Do people typically experience soreness after a rolfing session (like deep tissue massage) or is it more like chiropractor/regular massage therapy (e.g. relaxation, tiredness, looseness)?

post #10 of 11

For an amusing spoof on Rolfing rent the movie "Semi-Tough" wherein the Burt Reynolds character gets "Pelfed".  A good movie for football season as he plays a football player. 

post #11 of 11
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So a little update. I've had my second session and definitely have had some changes. I've been experimenting with duct-tape and shims to assess my canting needs and finally got the boots recut yesterday. I think I am pretty much fixed. Both sides feel the same with pretty close to zero canting on either foot. I am not used to being able to use my left foot as well as my right, but in time I think I'll be able to do everything on my left foot that I can on my right.

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