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Poll Results: Which Kastle would you prefer if you lived on the East Coast?

 
  • 5% (1)
    LX 82
  • 94% (16)
    MX 83
17 Total Votes  
post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 

Height: 5'9" (175 cm)

Weight: 166 pounds (75.29 kg)

Skill: Intermediate/Advanced

Location: East Coast (Mass, Vermont, NY SKI locations)

Age: 30

 

Hi all,

 

I'm looking to pool your experience about Kastle SKI's before I pull the trigger on a larger cost equipment order.  I've read a lot about LX 82's and I think a 172 should be a good fit given my weight and height.  However, I'm wondering if I should just cast my gaze over of the MX series and drop the LX all together.  Something like the MX83 in a 173 length.  One thing that I found a tad off putting is that the LX ski's appear to be marketing towards woman more even though they are unisex.

 

I'm not a super aggressive skier on typical days, however I can be sometimes.  Any insight given my skill level and location would be most appreciated!

 

Sincerely,

 

Patrick

post #2 of 20

I wouldn't discount the LX skis. They are quite versatile, and almost offer all the horsepower of the MX, but with a little more relaxing feel. In fact, if they made the LX92 in a 180cm, it would probably be my preferred "daily driver" of anything in the line. It is quite similar to the FX94, but with more float in the tip, and a bit tighter feeling carver.  Sweet ski.  The offered sizes are not right for me, however. 

post #3 of 20

Two good choices, and either one would suit.  If you're working on becoming a more aggressive skier go for the MX83.  If you're happy cruising around for the most part and only ski aggressively on occasion you may prefer the LX82. 

 

Have a great season.

post #4 of 20

I own the LX82 in the 172 length and love it.  I have 4 other pair of skis so it isn't a one ski quiver or anything.  My other skis are:

 

Line Prophet 100 in 172

Line Influence 105 in 179

Line Sir Francis Bacon in 184

Line Mr Pollard's Opus in 178

 

I love wider skis.  I live in Michigan so most people on this board will think I am crazy about having all those wide skis but I love them.  Line skis no matter what the width just turn like butter.  However the LX82's are just an awesome fast turning stable ski.  I am not sure why anyone would think it is a women's ski and btw I have seen many women make most men look like amatuers on skis. 

 

For reference I am 5' 6" and weigh 165.  Good luck on your search and I have not tried the MX series.  One thing to keep in mind is the LX has a very slight twin tip design and the MX has a flat tail.

post #5 of 20
I happen to be 48 years old 5'9" 165 lbs and picked up a pair of last years MX 78s in the 167 length because I ski in the East (NH) and love the so far. I'd say I'm a lower level advanced ski and find they give me fantastic feedback when I do something wrong, but dont punish me for it. I imagine the MX83 would be similar but more versatile especially for your height and weight.

Dawg, what didn't you like about the LX94s in the 174 length? I wonder if it might work for me as a wider ski with our tighter trails and trees here in the East.
post #6 of 20
Thread Starter 

Lots of good feedback, thanks all.  Poll results seem to be pointed at the MX series, however the consensus from the posts appear to be slanted towards the LX.  Personally, I think I'm leaning towards pulling the trigger on some LX82's.

post #7 of 20
The poll asks what I would want. Your post asks what YOU would want. Thus the discrepancy, I suspect.
post #8 of 20
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by qcanoe View Post

The poll asks what I would want. Your post asks what YOU would want. Thus the discrepancy, I suspect.

 

Indeed :) - With that said, out of curiosity, would you select the MX series ski as you're a more agressive experienced skier?  The LX appears to be a more even keel tempo while the MX appears to be more for harder riding. 

post #9 of 20

Tough call. I own both an MX and LX. 78 and 92 though.  If you're not typically an aggressive skier, I'd say the LX is a better fit.  The MX wants you to push it, it's not as much fun if you are taking it easy. 

post #10 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by qcanoe View Post

The poll asks what I would want. Your post asks what YOU would want. Thus the discrepancy, I suspect.

This ^^^^. I think the majority of repliers would prefer the MX83 because they're fairly assertive skiers. But we're also trying to help you with your purchase. I'd agree with Dawgcatching that the LX82's are a great daily driver for lighter skiers (forget the women/man thing). I'd add that they'll be a touch nicer in softer snow or bumps, while the MX83's will be a touch nicer on hardpack and ice. 

post #11 of 20
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by beyond View Post

This ^^^^. I think the majority of repliers would prefer the MX83 because they're fairly assertive skiers. But we're also trying to help you with your purchase. I'd agree with Dawgcatching that the LX82's are a great daily driver for lighter skiers (forget the women/man thing). I'd add that they'll be a touch nicer in softer snow or bumps, while the MX83's will be a touch nicer on hardpack and ice. 

 

Agreed.  I think I will go for the LX82's and see how I get on with them for the season.  If I feel that I want to push harder and be more aggressive then I can always upgrade to the MX83's at some other point in the future.

post #12 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by beyond View Post

This ^^^^. I think the majority of repliers would prefer the MX83 because they're fairly assertive skiers. But we're also trying to help you with your purchase. I'd agree with Dawgcatching that the LX82's are a great daily driver for lighter skiers (forget the women/man thing). I'd add that they'll be a touch nicer in softer snow or bumps, while the MX83's will be a touch nicer on hardpack and ice. 

 

I can attest to the LX82's being good in bumps.  They are better than good they are great.  They also work awesome on hard pack.  I love mine.

post #13 of 20
Thread Starter 

The problem I might have now is actually obtaining the LX82 in 172.  I called two ski shops today to inquire about the LX82 and they had to check to see if they could even order them.

 

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post #14 of 20

I would vote for the MX series. I have the MX88, and find it to be silky smooth, relaxing, super damp and yet precise. For reference, my previous ski was a Nordica Hot Rod Nitrous Ti in a 170 - not damp enough. And prior to that it was the famously loved tool of intermediates everywhere in the mid 2000's - the K2 Apache Recon. The MX88 blows them both away in terms of handling, and it's a very smooth relaxing ride.

 

I would not want to give up any precision and high speed handling through bad conditions for a more "relaxing" ride, whatever that might be.

 

I'm 35, 6'0 166 lbs, and ski the MX88 in a 178. However I demoed it in a 168 and even though it was 10 cm shorter (too short by most people's judgement for a guy my size) it still had no speed limit. I bought the 178 because I get a great deal on a used pair.

 

I ski 50 days a year at Mammoth but I wouldn't call myself an expert skier. The MX88 is very relaxing in my opinion because it's so damp. Also it is so rock solid in a turn that it helps YOU relax because you can trust it at any speed. And yet the tails release when you want them to.

 

You do need to stay in the front seat - but this is the most relaxing kind of skiing anyway. Skiing sloppy in the back seat is what wears one out.

 

The MX88 is the one ski that honestly made me feel like a better skier from the moment I strapped it on.

 

It's the one ski I will never sell - except perhaps to get a new one if I ever manage to wear this beast out.

 

I'll say it again - the MX series will NOT wear you out or beat up your legs if you are even remotely in decent physical shape.

 

I know it sucks to live where you can't demo a ski - I was lucky because a Mammoth shop started selling them and I could try it. Skiing is believing.

post #15 of 20

Patrick - what have you owned before? What are you skiing on?

 

I can tell you that the MX88 turned me into a more aggressive skier because it's so solid that I was immediately comfortable skiing faster. Kind of like replacing a car's worn out suspension with brand new components - you immediately find yourself driving down the road faster and in more control while being more relaxed.

post #16 of 20
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by calisnow View Post

Patrick - what have you owned before? What are you skiing on?

 

I can tell you that the MX88 turned me into a more aggressive skier because it's so solid that I was immediately comfortable skiing faster. Kind of like replacing a car's worn out suspension with brand new components - you immediately find yourself driving down the road faster and in more control while being more relaxed.

 

Right now I'm driving an Elan Amphibio Waveflex 82 @ 168 , however I don't own them.  A good friend of mine bought another pair of ski's and allowed me to borrow them; lucky me because they're not cheap.  Prior to that I was driving a 2011 Volkl Mantra @ 170.

 

I've heard a lot of good thing about the Kastle brand which is why I'm asking all you fine folk for advice.  I'm looking for a versatile ski that will allow me to go aggressive when I want to, or just do some standard driving when I'm with family and friends.  Your description of the MX series is swaying me a bit.  It definitely does suck to not be able to demo them, however everyones collective experience should allow me to make an informed purchase.

 

I found that a lot of people are out of the LX series, however the MX series appears to be available at various sources.  Another reason why I might shoot for the MX 83.  I think the MX 88 might be a bit too much ski for me @ 178 and the 168 might be a tad too small.

post #17 of 20

Both good skis, a bit different. Both fit your needs. My guess is you'll like either one. I'd buy whichever was a better buy. I like my FXs but I imagine I'd like the MX or LX too. 

post #18 of 20
I ski the lx82 in a 180...after skiing it in the 172 last year. I am 6'2 170 lbs. I haven't skied the MX...when contemplating going up in length many recommended the mx88, but I wanted to increase length and figured best to stick with one variable change at a time. Love this length...I ski fairly aggressively and could find some speed limit in rough conditions on the 172, but the 180 has cured this. I haven't felt any downsides to the extra length and like them better in bumps...flex seems better for me.

My sense is you will love this ski as it fits your usage description perfectly.
post #19 of 20
Thread Starter 

Would the LX82 be a bit better for moguls and small jumps when compared to the MX83?  I'm getting the feeling that the MX83 is a bit less versatile in that sense.

post #20 of 20

I'd say the MX83 is a bit more powerful and will be a stronger ski for someone your size, while the LX82 is a lighter and more nimble.  

For me the LX82 is a better choice, especially if you're considering moguls, but at your size, the MX83 should be fine. 

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