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post #31 of 58
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I just got my hands on the 2014-2015 Deer Valley trail map.  Even though I have never skied at DV, I think the new map is an improvement as it doesn't seem as crowded as last year's map (but there is a considerable amount of wasted space as one-fourth of the map is devoted to downtown Park City and Silver Lake Village).  I'll put it to the test in about two months when I visit DV for the first time.

http://cdn.deervalley.com/web/Content/pdf/planning/trail_maps/DVRWinterTrailMap.jpg

post #32 of 58

I've never been to Deer Valley -

It looks like you're just skiing in everyone's backyard....

post #33 of 58
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I've never been to Deer Valley -

It looks like you're just skiing in everyone's backyard....

Oh, its not everyones...its the .0001%'s backyards. 

post #34 of 58
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A new article from September 2014 called The Mountain Map Man that is a good interview with Jim Niehues.  Towards the end, he was asked "If there were only five ski resorts in the world, which five do you think they should be?"  The article includes the paintings of the five he picked from the 169 ski areas that he has painted so far.  Take a look to see which he chose. 

 

http://scoutski.com/the-mountain-map-man

 

nice article. I love these maps .. other than on a few runs wondering which way is down. I'd love it if on those few runs, if they had an arrow to show the down hill path! Of course, it gives reason so ski a bit more.

post #35 of 58
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Originally Posted by marznc View Post
 

A new article from September 2014 called The Mountain Map Man that is a good interview with Jim Niehues.  Towards the end, he was asked "If there were only five ski resorts in the world, which five do you think they should be?"  The article includes the paintings of the five he picked from the 169 ski areas that he has painted so far.  Take a look to see which he chose. 

 

http://scoutski.com/the-mountain-map-man

 

nice article. I love these maps .. other than on a few runs wondering which way is down. I'd love it if on those few runs, if they had an arrow to show the down hill path! Of course, it gives reason so ski a bit more.


There are are few ski resorts that include arrows for cross trails that are used to move between different sections of  a mountain.  Jackson Hole is a good example.  Adding stuff like that is the responsibility of someone else after the painting is completed and approved in any case.

post #36 of 58
Great thread, and a fascinating aspect of the industry I've always appreciated without really realizing it!
post #37 of 58

Came across this article today on kottke.org. Never occurred to me that almost all trail maps have the same look. Check out the artist's site, too:

 

http://kottke.org/15/02/beautiful-hand-painted-ski-trail-maps

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post #39 of 58
*hangs head in shame*
post #40 of 58

@kauffee  I can merge the threads. Its like magic!

post #41 of 58

Thanks TC! Dignity restored :)

post #42 of 58

Niehues is working on a new painting for Alta.  Will be used as the base for a new trail map for the 2015-16 season.

post #43 of 58

Wow. Amazing Collection! I really have enjoyed his work over the past few decades without knowing it was him.

 

There are a few mistakes in the website though. Not that it has anything to do with the art itself but it seems like a quick an easy fix.

 

post #44 of 58

Just saw this interesting video from FatMap   Makes me wonder if we're heading in a direction of new technology maps, while we still value the heritage of James Nieheus

post #45 of 58

Two mountains where I ski have recently created new trail maps.  The original maps were painted by James Niehues, but to save money management chose not to have him do the new ones.

 

The new maps are far inferior to the old ones.  These maps lead to confusion when viewed by people unfamiliar with the mountain.  They also have larger trees pictured.  Clearly it takes less time to photoshop in some fake trees if you make them large, because you can use less trees to fill in a section.  Unfortunately when the trees are larger, it makes the mountain look smaller than it is.  Seems like management would find this embarrassing.  But the people who chose to make these new maps this way are visually insensitive and not aware of these changes for the worse.

 

I fear this will be the trend as computer-generated maps become easier to produce.  Computer programs do not yet have embedded in them the intelligence to make a stunning map that takes into account the way humans interpret and use what they see.  Niehues is a master at this.

post #46 of 58

Niehues has started a new project.  Working on a combined painting of PCMR and Canyons.

post #47 of 58
I wish he'd redo our backside map, now that the area has been extended. Up and down no longer look right at all.
post #48 of 58
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Just saw this interesting video from FatMap   Makes me wonder if we're heading in a direction of new technology maps, while we still value the heritage of James Nieheus


I'm not certain - one of the things Nieheus (or other good artists) can do is take a few liberties to flatten the mountains and twist them around somewhat so that one can get say a 270 degree view on a 180 degree page.  Just looking at this year's Big Sky map it has the feel of wrapping the edges in to give more of a view of what would likely be hidden in an actual picture taken from the same spot.

post #49 of 58

For Christmas this past year, my wife got me a hiking map of the central Wasatch that was painted by Nieheus. Like a good ski map, it is not overly detailed, but it does give me an overview of all of the major hikes, their general location, their relation to one another and their aspect. I know there are also some for Zion National Park and other areas.

post #50 of 58
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Niehues is the man. On timefortuckerman and kickstarter we commissioned him to do a drawing of Tuckerman Ravine and it came out awesome


I was among the lucky few as well.  Fantastic, very very special.

post #51 of 58

James will be missed when he stops stops producing work.

 

Senan Gorman (kneedropper here) created maps and brochures for several ski resorts including several kids coloring books and activity books to teach mountain safety. It's a different style.

post #52 of 58

Niehues has finished up the revision for the new lift at Jackson Hole.  He posted a side-by-side comparison of that section on his FB page on Monday, June 22, 2015.

 

Has also been working on a combined PCMR/Canyons painting.  Fun to read his explanations of different stages.

post #53 of 58

Looks like Solitude will have a new trail map for the 2015-16 season.  Niehues posted a pic of what's he's working on this sumer for Solitude. He said:

 

"Solitude Utah - this is the initial airbrushed blue. Notice the pencil tracing locating all the trees and features. I have painted the tracing in places that will be airbrushed blue so they will show through the paint. This view will show some slopes of Brighton, in the Big Cottonwood Canyon, and Alta, in the Little Cottonwood Canyon."

post #54 of 58

It's done!  Niehues has finished the new Solitude painting.  He did the last one 26 years ago.  He used lighter shades in the background for areas that include Brighton and Alta.

 

 

 

Solitude final draft on July 14, 2015

post #55 of 58

Niehues is working on a new painting for Hunter in NY.  Guess after Peak bought Hunter, the idea was to update the trail map.  He has a few posts on his FB page that show the process.  Getting the backside on a 2D view to look reasonable is always a challenge.

 

https://www.facebook.com/JamesNiehues

 

 

post #56 of 58

In case those interested in James Niehues haven't noticed, if you have a question or two, check out this thread as Tyler gets ready to interview Niehues.

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/147368/upcoming-epicski-interview-with-jim-niehues-what-do-you-want-to-ask-him

post #57 of 58

There is going to be a new Neihues trail map in Colorado for 2016-17.  He's working on Breck.  Started on the idea back in 2008 so had to add Peak 6 to the sketch.

 

https://www.facebook.com/JamesNiehues/posts/666009876891596

 

post #58 of 58

The Breck painting in moving along quickly.  He's posting pics daily on his FB page.

 

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