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Mx88 or Bmx88

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5' 7" 150 lb advanced but not necessarily a full on aggressive skier. I now ski exclusively out west 10-10 days per year and mostly groomed, crud, bumps and a bit in trees. I've been skiing on 161 Volkl all stars for a few years and like them, but now out west and want to move to a more all-mountain ski. I've read a bunch on epic and really am interested in Kastle, but can't decide between the mx88 and bmx88. I like the idea that the bmx may be better suited to my current style of skiing, but I am concerned that with my expertise improving, would I be better off going with the Mx88. Thoughts and advice?
post #2 of 16

The MX88 is a Kastle, the BMX88 is a nice $599 ski, the problem is, it is $799. If you want to step up and treat yourself to the MX, by all means do so, very few who have left disappointed. But as far as the BMX88, there are many other 88 waisted ski that are better...

 

Blizzard Bushwacker

Rossignol Experience 88

Volkl Kendo

 

Are all skis that perform very well in western conditions and what you are looking for, 

post #3 of 16
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Will the mx88 be too much ski, given height/weight? I was thinking length of 168.
post #4 of 16
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Originally Posted by spaley17 View Post

Will the mx88 be too much ski, given height/weight? I was thinking length of 168.

You are skiing an All-Star?...no. wink.gif

post #5 of 16
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Also, my all stars as you know are an aggressive ski and want to be skied aggressively-- you have to be on top of them all the time. Will the MX88 Be similar in style or is it more forgiving.
post #6 of 16
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post

You are skiing an All-Star?...no. wink.gif

For sure, but not sure how the mx88 will ski. I guess you are saying if skiing the all stars now, shouldn't have a problem with the MX88's? Correct?
post #7 of 16
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Would 168 be the correct length? Can't see myself in a 158.
post #8 of 16

I am 5'7"   150 lbs , Have skiied about 150 times , I am not an expert . I will tell what I think , The MX 88  are lighter than My  Atomic Nomad blackeye ti

   They almost perform the same , But the MX88 is not as good on hard pack , MX88 is better with a little loose snow and will get you over some powder ,They need to have an edge tune so could carver better, I couldn't say I know anything about powder being a snoqualmie skier , But they are easier on powder  than the Atomics and not as good as the  b4 rossi with a 94mm waist ,

 I feel mx88are flexible and reasonable on vibration , I had other skis that are all over the place at higher speed , The mx88 vibrates and flaps a little  but is  stable  , Plus ... As far as your concern on the length , They have more upturn on the tip so they don't really ski like a longer ski , Mine are 168 .They  flex into the turns and do not feel like a 2x4 under foot , But then are not like a flappy unstable beginner rental ski , I like them . They seem light on my feet . stable , I don't have to be in a carve all the time .The Nomads need to carve to feel stable at a higher speed ,    , I hope this helps ,

post #9 of 16
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Thanks Mark. That does help. I think teh MX88's woudl be great for me. I dont expect them to rail like my Volkl Allstars, but that's not what I am looking for.

post #10 of 16
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Originally Posted by spaley17 View PostI dont expect them to rail like my Volkl Allstars, but that's not what I am looking for.

 

Then you may be in for a shock.

post #11 of 16

I spent some time on the new MX83 a couple of weeks ago. They railed like nothing I've ever been on before. I've also had some experience with the All Stars. I think you will find that the MX88's will do everything better.

post #12 of 16

I've been thinking a little more about what you originally described as to what your preferred terrain choices would be. That said, I'm thinking that the MX83 in the 163 length might be a better choice for you. First of all, the MX88 in a 168 is going to be just a centimeter short of your head height. Combine that with the fact that the MX88 has a bigger turn radius than the MX83, and this combination adds up to a ski that is not going to be as manuverable in trees and bumps. The MX83 is available in a 163 length, which I'm thinking would be a better length for you. Plus the MX83 has more of a variable turn radius. The MX83 that I skied was almost my head height, but I couldn't believe that it was as nimble and quick edge to edge as it was. It skied more like a hybrid GS/slalom, more willing to do a number of various turn shapes. If you were going to be blasting down big open bowls, then the MX88 in a 168 would probably be a better choice, but from what you describe that you're going to be doing to most, it seems to me like the MX83 in a 163 length would be the way to go. 

post #13 of 16
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Originally Posted by Mac View Post

I've been thinking a little more about what you originally described as to what your preferred terrain choices would be. That said, I'm thinking that the MX83 in the 163 length might be a better choice for you. First of all, the MX88 in a 168 is going to be just a centimeter short of your head height. Combine that with the fact that the MX88 has a bigger turn radius than the MX83, and this combination adds up to a ski that is not going to be as manuverable in trees and bumps. The MX83 is available in a 163 length, which I'm thinking would be a better length for you. Plus the MX83 has more of a variable turn radius. The MX83 that I skied was almost my head height, but I couldn't believe that it was as nimble and quick edge to edge as it was. It skied more like a hybrid GS/slalom, more willing to do a number of various turn shapes. If you were going to be blasting down big open bowls, then the MX88 in a 168 would probably be a better choice, but from what you describe that you're going to be doing to most, it seems to me like the MX83 in a 163 length would be the way to go. 

 

Holy Crap, glad I read this! I had looked at the MX83 before but after reading all the posts on the MX88 I was convinced, even tho the ski was 7cm longer than I currently ski. Now after reading your thoughts and then going back and reading Dawgcatching's thoughts on the MX83 form previous posts, you are right. This would be a better ski for me given what terrain I typically am in. I had just placed an order for MX88's at 168 and fortunately was able to change it to the MX83 at 163. Whew!.

 

Thanks again for your thoughts--They totally make sense.

post #14 of 16

Considering that the Kastle MX skis have no rocker, I don't see any need to go longer than you have to. I'm 184 cm tall, and I typically ski a 177 length in most skis. I'm 200+lbs, and a fairly advanced skier, and I seldom find that I need anything more than that. If you are 5' 7, the 163 will come about to your eyebrow level, which should be about right. You could probably ski it longer if you were doing mostly high speed big turns on wide open spaces. And I'm sure that the MX88 in the 168 would have been fine, too. But for bumps and trees, I don't see how you could go wrong with the slightly shorter MX83. Let us know how you like it.  

post #15 of 16

I too am considering the BMX line as a softer ski for trees.

 

I skied the MX88 and fell in love with it immediately.  Another poster said he found the MX88's did not hold well and got a little "floppy".  Not my experience at all.

 

I ski fast on groomers, my Contour GPS had me at 54 mpg on one short run.  I ski in the east, so hard pack is usually the rule.  The MX88 had no speed limit, it gripped like crazy, no sliding whatsoever once you set it.  Floopy, ah no!

 

I could not find a deal on them so I went with the MX78.  Maybe a little quicker edge to edge, same grip, but a lot less forgiving.  Need to stay on top of the 78's.  The MX88's were very forgiving, and I actually think they carve a little better.

 

I am looking for some MX88's to replace my MX78's and I am considering BMX98's for skiing Jay Peal trees.

 

Any comments are most welcome.

post #16 of 16

I so agree.  The MX88 DOES hold like it is on rails.  Best ski I have skied in a while.

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