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Salomon Enduro 850 vs 800

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Ok since I've already opened myself up to ridicule....

 

Here's my life story....

 

I live in the Montreal area. I am actually a pretty decent skier. Long ago, I was a CSIA level 2 Instructor.  I got my last pair of skis in 1998, Salomon Axendo Series. They were actually free. I was on a..."ski team" for a local radio station. Wow that was a sweet gig.  free Salomon equipment, suit  and free skiing anywhere in the area for the season. But the whole job, kids thing got in the way. So I didn't ski very much for a few years. Certainly not enough to justify buying new stuff.

 

Now that  I have successfully gotten my two daughters (7 and 9) up and mobile on skis. (and they even enjoy it), I'm back in the market. 

 

I'm 42....I weigh 155lbs. 5'9'.  Once upon a time I'd say that I used my equipment "to the fullest".....

 

I'm also a bit of a brand whore. I have an irrational allegiance to Salomon. I can't explain it or justify it. (I know I'm not the only person who does this).  But I just like Salomon stuff.

 

So now.....despite all my oldness, I'm looking at the Enduro XT 800 and 850.   As I'm not a big guy, nor a young guy, nor a smart guy, nor a good looking guy, I don't bathe very often, I don't signal when I change lanes, I spit when I talk,  I don't turn off my mobile phone at the movies...I've forgotten my question...

 

Oh yeah. I'm thinking I'd be just fine with the 800. But would would that be a mistake? would I really miss that additional "50"? I always like to go "top shelf", but maybe I'd actually be happier on something slightly softer, rather than always fighting to get my skis to bend. Again....all the oldness. 

 

And the other wrinkle, is (from my initial foray into this forum yesterday), a buddy from work wants to sell me his Dynastar Contact Ltd Edition with the weirdo Look bindings for a couple hundred bucks. They were used for 10 days.  So maybe I should just do that and save myself $1000. But new Enduro...ooohhhh....shiny.... new....

 

All commentary, advice, abuse is welcome.

 

edit: Oh and length recommendations would also be welcome. (for real). Things have changed since 1998. My Axendos are a "Pr6"...around 182-ish?  The Dynastars are 178. I found another thread here and based on what I read there, I'm thinking because of my size, I could even consider sub-170 based on today's standards....


Edited by RM MMike - 1/3/13 at 6:50pm
post #2 of 6

I'm 57, 155 lbs and have skied on the 177cm 850's for a year-and-a-half.  They turn so quickly that I'm often tempted to go for the 184s.  (But I do punch above my weight.)

 


Have you experienced the benefit of the softer, rockered tips that many of today's skis have? 
 
Surely you could demo.  You'd never regret it.

 

Here's my take:

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/103364/review-2012-salomon-enduro-xt-850

 

 

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How well you are able to ski is related to how hard you are willing to fall.

post #3 of 6

Axendo..not Salomons best days. The 850 is a damn nice ski and worth the the couple extra Tim Horton donuts that you will sacrifice to get them. PR6..genus sizing system, it actually made sense to those who understood it. 

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Originally Posted by crudmaster View Post

I'm 57, 155 lbs and have skied on the 177cm 850's for a year-and-a-half.  They turn so quickly that I'm often tempted to go for the 184s.  (But I do punch above my weight.)

 


Have you experienced the benefit of the softer, rockered tips that many of today's skis have? 
 
Surely you could demo.  You'd never regret it.

 

Here's my take:

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/103364/review-2012-salomon-enduro-xt-850

 

 

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How well you are able to ski is related to how hard you are willing to fall.

 

Thanks. I read your review....I perked up when I saw "Crystal Mountain". While I grew up (and currently live) in Montreal, I spent 6 years in Seattle.  That is some very different skiing out there!! Imagine how my Axendo's did on Alpental!

 

And demo'ing is the very advice I give people whenever I'm asked. I just don't have the freedom to go to many places that actually do demos.  The 850's sure SOUND like they'd be for me....demo-ing is always the way to go. I'm just so WAYYY behind on ski technology I don't know how to wade back in!

 

That being said....maybe I should wait until my kids are older/better skiers, and we  can go farther afield. Maybe I should just snag the Dynastars from my friend to slide by for now.....though they do seem a little too long/stiff for me....(hee hee hee hee hee...long and stiff)

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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post

Axendo..not Salomons best days. The 850 is a damn nice ski and worth the the couple extra Tim Horton donuts that you will sacrifice to get them. PR6..genus sizing system, it actually made sense to those who understood it. 

 

Hey don't bad mouth my ancient skis!!!  Yeah the Pr system....alas I was not among those who understood it.

post #6 of 6

I have been teaching on a pair of 168cm XT 800s for a month now and they are a joy to use.

I bought them while my knees were aching and I was skiing gently.

For skiing at slow to medium speeds I cannot fault them, they almost turn by themselves, and work in any snow condition. They are particularly easy to use in bumps, crud, powder, wet snow and for making smooth finished turns at slower speeds on very hard pack (bordering on icy) steep slopes.

They also carve well at moderately high speed.

However, once my knees stopped aching and I wanted to ski more aggressively I discovered their weak spot.

In short aggressive turns on steeper terrain their soft flex meant the skis washed out and did not grip when trying to create a platform for the next turn.

This is not a complaint though. Every ski has to compromise somewhere and the 800 is  certainly the easiest truning ski I have ever used.

It is the perfect teaching ski and ideal for a senior skier who still wants to ski everything but with less agression.

I am now looking for an easier truning GS ski to compliment the 800 in a 2 ski quiver.

 

Good ;luck

 

Mark Gunston

Ski Instructor

Schischule WilderKaiser

St Johann in Tirol

Austria

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