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I'll be at Copper Mt. Colorado 3/8-3/13 with my girlfriend. She is a low intermediate and we will be skiing mostly blues/greens. When she is tired and gives me the green light I don't want to waste time on groomers. Any info about where to get the good stuff, which lifts and direction to head off to will be very much appreciated, pm if you don't want it all out there on the internet. I don't care about conditions just want to experience what Copper has to offer in the Bowls, trees, steeps, bumps etc. thanks, David

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Snowbowler

 

Glad to hear you are going to give Copper a go -- it's a great mountain, and has something for everyone.

 

Let's start with the Bowls.  There are three primary bowls:  Copper Bowl, Spaulding Bowl, and Jupiter Bowl.  Copper Bowl is the backside of copper, and has two fixed grip chairs in it:  Black Jack and Mountain Chief.  You access Copper Bowl by either skiing off of the top of the front side (take the Storm King poma) to Lille G, by the Rendevous lift, or by hiking to the top of Union Peak from the top of the Sierra lift.  Copper Bowl has a number of lines skiers right of the top of Mountain Chief which become steeper the further out you go.  They are accessed from the ridge top/cornice, and the further lines require a short hike to access.  If you are willing to hike 5-10 minutes, you can often go beyond the rope through the gate to access some lines that aren't as skied.  This can be a good place to look for soft snow, powder, and wind load depending on the conditions.

 

Just skiers right and above the bottom of the Mountain Chief lift is the access for the free (!) cat to Tucker Mountain.  The cat takes you to the top of the saddle between Jacques Peak and Tucker from whence you can hike to the top of the peak.  My advice is to hike to the top, bomb along the ridge to the next ascent, and hike to the top of the peak proper -- the shorter hike generally has poorer snow, is short, and doesn't have a lot of pitch to it.  From the top, you've got a number of interesting lines.  My favorite is through Fremont Glades, but make sure you don't go too low -- it's a long slog back to the lift through dense trees and deep snow uphill if you do.

 

From the top of Mountain Chief, you can also ski the top of Union Peak.  This is one of my favorite runs.  You either bomb to the left of the patrol shack and hike a few feet to the top of Union Peak proper or take the traverse to the right of the patrol shack all the way around to the top of Buzzard's Alley.  Buzzards has been one of my favorite runs for a long time.  The only problem with it is the necessity of taking two lifts to run laps on it.

 

There's lots of possibilities in Copper Bowl.  You can easily waste half a day exploring the terrain.  It's not as big as any one of the back bowls at Vail, but generally has more pitch.

 

My favorite bowl is Spaulding Bowl.  Skiers right are a bunch of lines that become increasingly mellow the further right you go.  If you go all the way to the rope line, you can sometimes find powder late.  To the left are the steeper lines:  Patrol, Bariloche, Cornice, and So Fine.  Of these, Bariloche (in a good snow year) and So Fine are my favorites.  So Fine is probably the steepest you'll find in the bowl, although you do lose a bit of altitude in skiing down the ridge to access it.  You access Spaulding Bowl from the Storm King poma lift and the lines can often be long.  You can also access Atlantic and Pacific Cornice into Spaulding by a very short hike above the patrol shack at the top of the SuperBee/Excelerator lifts.  A slightly longer hike will get you to So Fine.  If you stay to the right of Patrol Chute, you can access Spaulding Glade, which has some interesting lower angle glade skiing.  There is a bit of a goat track getting out, however.

 

Jupiter Bowl is off of the front side of the Sierra (S) lift.  There's a lot of interesting lines.  My particular favorites are Kaboom (along the right rope line) and Sharky's, a line that goes down from the small tree stand at the top of the bowl to the flat just above the lift tower.  There's often some good snow in Endeavor, where the wind loads it in.  Down through the trees can be interesting.  And for steep tree skiing, the ridge can be interesting as well.

 

From the Superbee/Excelerator, you can ski through the gate at the top (past Storm King) to access Enchanted Forest.  There's some lovely lines in there, both cut and gladed.  And further down you can access Sail Away Glade, which is more of the same, although not as heavily visited.

 

My favorite glades on the mountain are Black Bear and Freefall.  They are between Rossie's Run and Formidable.  Wonderful skiing.

 

That's a snapshot.  Don't forget to ski Alpine (A) lift -- while it is fixed grip and slow, it accesses some great bump skiing and it gains a lot of vertical.

 

Mike

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Mike,

 

I'm headed to Copper January 24th and I've never been before.  I'm nervous about the lack of snow so far.  I know you probably aren't a forecaster, but do you think based on past history there will be more snow between now and then?  How much more will it take to open up more of the blacks?  Joel from OpenSnow.com predicted a storm next Thursday.

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Over the holidays, I skied Copper almost exclusively.  While the amount of terrain is somewhat limited, it's got quite a bit of variety to it.  I did get bored in 6 days of skiing, but at least there's stuff with some pitch to it.

 

I got to ski (via patrol directed skiing) some of the steeper stuff.  I'd guess we only need another foot or two to open much of that terrain, things like Jupiter Bowl.  Because of the volume of holiday traffic, some of the off-piste terrain that is open now seriously needs snow (stuff like Mine Dump).  But, the snowy pattern is supposed to return next week.  I'd be relatively confident that a lot more terrain will be open by the time of your trip.

 

I, on the other hand, am headed to India (Kashmir specifically) in search of powder about the time you'll be arriving.  It'll be my luck that no snow will fall there, and a lot will fall here...

 

Mike

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Over the holidays, I skied Copper almost exclusively.  While the amount of terrain is somewhat limited, it's got quite a bit of variety to it.  I did get bored in 6 days of skiing, but at least there's stuff with some pitch to it.

 

I got to ski (via patrol directed skiing) some of the steeper stuff.  I'd guess we only need another foot or two to open much of that terrain, things like Jupiter Bowl.  Because of the volume of holiday traffic, some of the off-piste terrain that is open now seriously needs snow (stuff like Mine Dump).  But, the snowy pattern is supposed to return next week.  I'd be relatively confident that a lot more terrain will be open by the time of your trip.

 

I, on the other hand, am headed to India (Kashmir specifically) in search of powder about the time you'll be arriving.  It'll be my luck that no snow will fall there, and a lot will fall here...

 

Mike

Not rooting against you but from your lips to God's ears!!snowfalling.gif

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Mike that is just what I'm looking for. Thank you for taking the time to write such a detailed overview of things. Loaded with your write up and some trail guide studying I should find everything I want.Hope you get the goods over in India. Have a great trip.David

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Jupiter Bowl is off of the front side of the Sierra (S) lift.  There's a lot of interesting lines.  My particular favorites are Kaboom (along the right rope line) and Sharky's, a line that goes down from the small tree stand at the top of the bowl to the flat just above the lift tower.  There's often some good snow in Endeavor, where the wind loads it in.  Down through the trees can be interesting.  And for steep tree skiing, the ridge can be interesting as well....

 

Me too, but I never knew its name. If it were 10x as long, it would be world class! ;-) The snow is always always always good there. 

 

Nice write-up, btw.

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Well 3 days in to my trip here in Copper and I can't say enough great things about the mt. Mike your post is right on the money. Finding great stuff here. Love the stuff at top of mt chief, what a rush dropping over the cornices. Bradley's passage? Amazing drop in. Trees in Resolution Bowl really hold snow and stay pretty soft, Spaulding bowl and lower glade were great but you are right about storm king lift line. Seemed like the " loading" success rate there was 3 out of 5 ha ha Trees all over the place hold snow so well and finding great untouched. Great bumps on Alpine lift. This is such a big place and great friendly people.
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Snowbowler, so happy you enjoyed your time there. Come back soon!

 

Mike

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(never mind.....)

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