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Help! Bonafides vs Steadfast... need to make decision! (sorry for lengthy post...)

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Well, I bought a pair of each and now just need to decide and mount one of them up (and return the other).

 

About me:  42 y/o, 5'11". 230 lbs... former HS and college racer (poorly.. I was in it for the beer and the chicks). Former ski shop wrench monkey/sales guru/stone grind mangler... so I get a little bit about ski tech but I'm a dinosaur... coming around to all this new cool kid mid-fat, stubby ski stuff.

 

I ski in the East most of the time (whichever way the wind is blowing me that day.. Stowe, Jay Peak, Waterville, Sunday River... or wherever there is a lift ticket deal to be had).  I have fantasies of skiing out West... maybe not this year but next year for sure.  Jackson Hole is my favorite, second being Vail.  I know.. weird!  What can I say.  I enjoy both places.

 

I usually ski the groomers, and prefer to make fast carving turns.  I have a love/hate relationship with bumps.. love em when they are big, soft and not too steep.. hate em when they are icy, tight and steep.  Plus, ruptured my Quad tendon 3 years ago so I'm skittish about pounding the bumps all day. Hey, I'm 42.. that's for younger kids.  LOVE to ski powder.. DUH!  haven't done it on one of these new fangled fat skis... but if I can blow through hip/chest deep blower in Vail, J-hole and Targhee on 207 cm. Rossi 7S... I think I could probably make it happen on these new fangled cheater skis.  

 

Weaknesses:  Skiing chopped up crap... I just seem to get tossed around too much and don't feel like I can control my speed.  Trees.. don't ski them often... so I'm sort of a "not sure how to do this" guy... but I need to get better at both of these skills.

 

Currently ski a Salomon X-Scream Series in a 191.  Yeah, it's time to upgrade.  Kids are older and finally in school now.. and I have some free time on my hands.  Let's ski, baby!

 

Okay, that was a long intro.

 

I have in my possession a pair of Blizzard Bonafides in 180 and Nordica Steadfast in 178.  I demo'd the Steadfast in that length a week ago at Waterville Valley the day after that big storm.  (and Hell and Back in a 185).  I have to say.. both skis were a revelation!  The Hell and Back was way more agile than I expected it to be and damn if that thing didn't have huge edge hold in GS style turns!  But... it seemed a bit... "much" for my everyday skiing experience so I took a spin on the Steadfast.  I almost immediately liked them.  Really light... noticeably light... but plenty of edge hold and stability.  Super quick edge to edge when called for and you didn't have to flog em to snap of some really nice carved short turns... but if you tipped em over and banked on em they would ride out a real nice GS turn too.  And the weirdest thing... you could just pivot those things on a dime through choppy little bumps.. could "smear" (not skid... ) them side to side like nothing... so light, so flickable.  Really, a cool ski.

 

So, I was all set on the Steadfast until.... I got stupid and started reading all the reviews.  And in my years I've rarely seen a ski get such universal love-fest praise like the Bonafide.  So I read every review, viewed very video and compared all the numbers in every category and it seemed like the Bonafide would be even better for me.. just as agile (or close to) and excellent on hard snow carve turns as the steadfast, just as "smear-able" due to the minimal tip/tail rocker but the wider waist and metal would make em blast through crappy snow much better (weakness #1) and they got incredible reviews for off-piste skiing including trees (weakness #2).

 

All set to buy them until I went to a shop and... the guys there were split over which ski was better.  Both guys had bought and owned either the Steadfast or the Bonafide and they made compelling arguments for each.

 

So... thoughts?  I am going to try and arrange a demo on the Bonafides asap.. but tough to do around here and honestly I just want to mount one of these babies up and go rip!

 

Thanks for reading my Novella and I appreaciate any feedback you might have.  Especially if you have skied on either (both) for East Coast skiing.

 

Cheers!

 

Pete/BankandCrank

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Thread Starter 

Anyone?  Bueller?

 

thanks

post #3 of 8

You had an unfair comparison when you skied the Steadfast in a 178 and the Helen Bach in a 185. Without writing a sequel to your novella, the 180 Bonafide will split the difference..if you want an easier ski for the trees and bumps. If you feel that in you advanced age of 42 rolleyes.gif you aren't going there and plan on just staying on the trails and groomers, stay the Steadfast. 

post #4 of 8

No response because you've already answered your own question. You really liked the Steadfast. All you're really doing is obsessing over other people's opinions.

 

The Bonafides will differ from them in precisely the ways you cite for liking the Steadfasts; Bones will be bit heavier, not quite as fast edge to edge, not quite as grippy on boilerplate, not quite as quick in bumps. (They'll be better in other ways, like crud crushing or soft snow, but I'm just going from what you specifically mention as pluses. And no, you can't have all possible qualities in one ski. Priorities must be made.)

 

More generally, much of what you mention is a function of width, not brand. A 98 mm ski may be more than you need. Finally, the Nordies will feel more like your Screams (which I owned), which also may influence your feelings.

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Well, as luck would have it Loon Mountain Sports has the Bonafides in 180 and the Steadfast in 178.  And the Kendos as well.  I originally had them off the list due to the need to really work them but what the heck... I'm paying to demo and I can swap around some, so why not try them?  You never know... 

 

26 degrees and should be all nice and groomed tomorrow morning to let em rip.  That will tell me how they ski for 80% of my on-snow time.  Unless the snow gods drop a surprise 6" on the mountain overnight (it could happen......).

 

I will report back.  In less than novella length, I promise.

post #6 of 8

So what's the verdict?  I'm making a similar decision myself.

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Originally Posted by BigT View Post

So what's the verdict?  I'm making a similar decision myself.

 

What do you plan to base your decision on?  What he did?  

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Originally Posted by beyond View Post

No response because you've already answered your own question. You really liked the Steadfast. All you're really doing is obsessing over other people's opinions.

 

The Bonafides will differ from them in precisely the ways you cite for liking the Steadfasts; Bones will be bit heavier, not quite as fast edge to edge, not quite as grippy on boilerplate, not quite as quick in bumps. (They'll be better in other ways, like crud crushing or soft snow, but I'm just going from what you specifically mention as pluses. And no, you can't have all possible qualities in one ski. Priorities must be made.)

 

More generally, much of what you mention is a function of width, not brand. A 98 mm ski may be more than you need. Finally, the Nordies will feel more like your Screams (which I owned), which also may influence your feelings.

 

beyond nailed it. Buy what you like. Reviews and reviewers be damned! Granted, reviews help to narrow the field, but beyond that it's all about personal preference.

 

I had similar experience to you when buying last year. I read all the buzz about the Bones (talk about a love fest) and was ready to buy them until I started demoing skis. I loved the Bones like everyone else--until I took them into tight trees and bumps. If you like skiing really fast in tight conditions (and have the chops for it---apprarently I didn't) again, they're great. I just found them more work than I wanted when slowing down a bit in tighter spots  (I probably should have been on a slightly shorter ski than I tried too.)

 

Anyway, buy what works for you in the conditions you really ski. Enjoy what you buy and don't second guess your choice (as long as  you get close).  Second guessing is a bigger source of dissastifaction than is buying less than the "perfect ski". "Less than perfect" allows plenty of room  for some great fun on terrific skis.  Enjoy what you're skiing on until it's time to buy another new pair--next week or next decade.

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