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post #31 of 51

Stoneham

Le Relaise

Le Massif

Mont St. Anne

Massif du Sud

 

All relatively close to each other.
 

post #32 of 51
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Originally Posted by awegrzyn View Post

vsirin, you seem somehow sharp. I was thinking Killington for the same reason you did:

 

That way I can leave 6am and ski the first day without losing time or money for a hotel. 

I make one or two eastern road trips every year covering multiple (sometimes 5 or more) ski areas over a week or 2 period. Doing that 5 or 10 times teaches you some things and sensible routing is one of them.

 

Killington

Cannon day 2

Stowe

MRG

Whiteface on your way home?

post #33 of 51
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Cannon is very much hit-or-miss conditions.  It can be very, very good and it can be really, really bad.  When the winds blast through the notch and scour all the snow off the place -- well, it can suck.  I first mentioned Cannon because the OP wanted a day of super fast groomers, something that Cannon can definitely serve up, especially if you're doing tram laps and racking up 2,000 vertical each lap. 

 

gcanoe, you appear to like Burke more then Cannon.  I like Cannon more then Burke.  Horses, courses, all that.  There's any number of places in New England and New  York where the OP can rack up a lot of high-speed groomer vertical.  Every place has their fans along with their detractors and we're not going to come to a consensus on this thread.

 

Hey Kevin, I totally did not intend to dis Cannon especially. Sorry if I came across too harsh. Obviously it's a big mountain with a lot of terrain, and its low-key vibe definitely suits my tastes. I probably have had more than my share of those "really really bad" days there. I just didn't think it was in the same league as Stowe, et al, is all. I agree that there will be no consensus, but actually I'm surprised and gratified by the fact that so many Bears like the same types of areas with "personality" that I do. E.g., I'm not hearing tons of votes for Mt. Snow or Loon or whatever. For sure Cannon has personality in spades.

post #34 of 51
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Originally Posted by awegrzyn View Post

vsirin, you seem somehow sharp. I was thinking Killington for the same reason you did:

 

That way I can leave 6am and ski the first day without losing time or money for a hotel. 

I make one or two eastern road trips every year covering multiple (sometimes 5 or more) ski areas over a week or 2 period. Doing that 5 or 10 times teaches you some things and sensible routing is one of them.

 

Killington

Cannon day 2

Stowe

MRG

Whiteface on your way home?

 

So really what this is is a Vermont road trip with a couple of minor forays across the borders. That's not a bad thing in itself, and I'm not saying that it's not sensible from a maximize-your-skiing-and-minimize-your-driving point of view. But it's hardly a tour of east coast skiing, per the thread title. There are probably eight or ten east coast states with passable skiing, depending on how you define it. Meanwhile three of the five proposed stops are in one state, not counting Jay, that the OP just visited.

post #35 of 51

Yes to Whiteface....dress extra warm and have bring out your race skis....or have your go-to skis extra sharp. beercheer.gif

post #36 of 51
Thread Starter 

^ I have Nordica Dobermann DH skis at 216, so I may take them with me just to see how stupid I can be on skis :)
 

post #37 of 51

The Lake Placid Pub & Brewery is a must if skiing the 'Face.

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+1

post #39 of 51
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The Lake Placid Pub & Brewery is a must if skiing the 'Face.

+1

post #40 of 51
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Originally Posted by qcanoe View Post

 

So really what this is is a Vermont road trip with a couple of minor forays across the borders. That's not a bad thing in itself, and I'm not saying that it's not sensible from a maximize-your-skiing-and-minimize-your-driving point of view. But it's hardly a tour of east coast skiing, per the thread title. There are probably eight or ten east coast states with passable skiing, depending on how you define it. Meanwhile three of the five proposed stops are in one state, not counting Jay, that the OP just visited.

 

I don't think it was stated that it was a tour of east coast skiing. He said he wanted 5 mountains in the US, and 5 in Canada, and he wanted the best recommendations. Like it or not, the best skiing on the East Coast is by and large in Vermont.

post #41 of 51
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Originally Posted by qcanoe View Post

 

So really what this is is a Vermont road trip with a couple of minor forays across the borders. That's not a bad thing in itself, and I'm not saying that it's not sensible from a maximize-your-skiing-and-minimize-your-driving point of view. But it's hardly a tour of east coast skiing, per the thread title. There are probably eight or ten east coast states with passable skiing, depending on how you define it. Meanwhile three of the five proposed stops are in one state, not counting Jay, that the OP just visited.

 

I don't think it was stated that it was a tour of east coast skiing. He said he wanted 5 mountains in the US, and 5 in Canada, and he wanted the best recommendations. Like it or not, the best skiing on the East Coast is by and large in Vermont.

 

Fair enough.

 

I guess the real point I'm making - which I now realize I have not articulated well - is this: If you're only going to be skiing one day at an area, the extent of the terrain does not need to be great. You are not going to ski all of Killington (or even all of Sugarbush or Stowe or Sugarloaf) in one day. If the OP were looking to spend three or four days at one area and not get bored, the obvious choices for resorts would be ... well, obvious.

 

For a series of one-day visits, the choices are not so obvious, IMHO. What matters is the character of the runs that you do take and the overall feel of the place. As someone said - more or less - earlier, you wouldn't want to do an Okemo - Loon - Sunday River trip, because those areas are all so similar in their "outlook" on what skiing should be: lots of wide blue fall line groomers with loads of manmade snow and well-heeled suburban family SUVs in the lot.

 

Think back on the best individual days of skiing you've had. Have all of them been at the biggest shiniest areas with the most vertical and the fastest lifts? Probably not. It's certainly not true for me. Once you start thinking this way, then it seems to me the criteria for what the "best" area might be on a given day changes.

post #42 of 51
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Will surprise you, I was at Jay and Orford during that snow storm, and there was much more snow at Jay than at Orford.  Orford felt like it was ran down to the ground.  At Jay I was shocked to see untracked snow in the afternoon on the Timbuktu glade. 

 

vsirin, you seem somehow sharp. I was thinking Killington for the same reason you did:

 

 

That way I can leave 6am and ski the first day without losing time or money for a hotel. 

Jay has always been more snow than Sutton ... Jay is more greedy and leaves little to Sutton ...
It is true that there has never been such a good start to the season in Quebec. For cons, the region south of Montreal often starts a little later because it is warmer than in the north (Tremblant) or East (Stoneham , Le Massif and  Mont Sainte-Anne).
Snow cover is now good for all except  Sutton ( next storm!). We are currently having a thaw but it will already be completed early in the coming week and will not affect the coverage.


For Quebec, I propose:
Jay (because half of the patrol and skiers from Quebec ... biggrin.gif)
Sutton (very close to Jay and can be an excellent choice when the lifts are stopped at Jay because of the wind ...)
Le Massif and Mont Ste-Anne are also a must.
For the last, there is  Stoneham that is on the way of the last 2 or else a small detour to Tremblant which is close to my home (I would be happy to show you around if I can ...)
 

post #43 of 51
Thread Starter 
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criteria for what the "best" area might be on a given day changes.

 

True, and I have to say this, I liked every place wherever I skied including Campgaw New Jersey )
I just wish I would be 15 again. 

 

 

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For the last, there is  Stoneham that is on the way of the last 2 or else a small detour to Tremblant which is close to my home (I would be happy to show you around if I can ...)

First I have to do the US trip, then I'll bother you.  

post #44 of 51
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True, and I have to say this, I liked every place wherever I skied including Campgaw New Jersey )
I just wish I would be 15 again. 

 

 

First I have to do the US trip, then I'll bother you.  

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post #45 of 51

You know what? I've changed my mind about this. Stay away. Just stay away. It's not worth the emotional roller coaster - the inevitable derailment of the coaster cars and the sickening plunge to the death for one's pathetic ski dreams. Case in point, this week's forecast. Classic New  England. Just classic. Ten days of absolutely below-zero weather and clear skies under our collective belts, followed not by snow but by a rain storm. I've seen it so many times. Why do I persist in hope like Charlie Brown with his football? 

 

NWS Forecast for: Fryeburg ME
Issued by: National Weather Service Gray/Portland, ME
Last Update: 4:02 pm EST Jan 26, 2013    Print

Tonight: Mostly clear, with a low around -5. Wind chill values as low as -20. Northwest wind around 9 mph.

Sunday: Sunny, with a high near 22. Wind chill values as low as -21. Northwest wind around 10 mph.

Sunday Night: Mostly clear, with a low around -4. Wind chill values as low as -11. Northwest wind 3 to 8 mph.

Monday: A 40 percent chance of snow, mainly after 3pm. Increasing clouds, with a high near 25. Wind chill values as low as -4. Calm wind.

Monday Night: A chance of snow before 5am, then a chance of snow and sleet. Cloudy, with a low around 18. Calm wind. Chance of precipitation is 50%. New precipitation amounts of less than a tenth of an inch possible.

Tuesday: A chance of freezing rain and sleet before 7am, then a chance of freezing rain. Cloudy, with a high near 38. Chance of precipitation is 30%. New precipitation amounts of less than a tenth of an inch possible.


Tuesday Night: A chance of rain. Cloudy, with a low around 33. Chance of precipitation is 50%.

Wednesday: Rain likely. Cloudy, with a high near 47. Chance of precipitation is 60%.

Wednesday Night: Rain likely. Cloudy, with a low around 33. Chance of precipitation is 60%.


Thursday: A 50 percent chance of showers. Partly sunny, with a high near 41.

Thursday Night: Mostly cloudy, with a low around 18.

post #46 of 51

q-

I feel for you.  Although for sheer disappointment it doesnt match the classic pattern of 6 hours of beautiful snowstorm with the trailing edge of the storm being rain.

post #47 of 51

MRG is pretty beat right now and after Christmas it felt like I was skiing A-Basin it was so epic.  You probably should pass on MRG right now unless we get dumped and that is not looking good but maybe March will light up.

 

Stowe has base but much of the tasty nuggets are not really where they should be at.

 

I have not even bothered heading up there in the past 2 weeks.  Just praying for snow.

post #48 of 51

 

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Originally Posted by awegrzyn View Post

 

... I liked every place wherever I skied...
I just wish I would be 15 again. 

 

 

While you couldn't pay me enough to be 15 again I spent 23 years skiing then working at a place with 350' vertical and never once was bored. As far as your trip, when I skied my way around the state looking for a new home, I found that while I like Smuggs, MRG, Stowe, and Jay a lot, (and my wife loves cruising at Killington) my choice as my home mountain was easily Sugarbush.    

 

 

 

 

 

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MRG is pretty beat right now and after Christmas it felt like I was skiing A-Basin it was so epic.  You probably should pass on MRG right now unless we get dumped and that is not looking good but maybe March will light up.

 

Stowe has base but much of the tasty nuggets are not really where they should be at.

 

I have not even bothered heading up there in the past 2 weeks.  Just praying for snow.


As a full time skier at Sugarbush you should have been up here. At near to below zero temps the guns blow closer to powder then the weather often provides early and late season.

 

Yes MRG is in a bad way right now but the nice thing is you can take a look at conditions the day you get there and if its too crowded or too beat its only 10 minutes to SB.

 

SB's bump/natural snow trail population has taken the same hit as MRG (Castle Rock is closed...Whaaa!) but still lots of fun to be had.

post #49 of 51
Thread Starter 

Trip has been postponed, partly due to weather.   In exchange I just booked Jackson Hole and Salt Lake City for 2/12 - 2/18.  As a side note I have to say Vermont hotels are more expensive, old,  and not available comparing to Utah/Wyoming.  The only thing that went up in price is the flight since it started dumping in Utah.  I think the ticket pricing engine is smart enough to figure out when to jack up prices.  Ticket went from $329 to about $485 and 2 hours after I booked it went up to $573.

 

I plan to hit

 

1.  Snowbird

2.  Deer Valley (have not been)

3.  Snowbasin (have not been)

4.  JackHo (have not been)

5.  JackHo (have not been)

 

I'm going with my kids, so that is the reason why the list looks the way it looks.

post #50 of 51
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Originally Posted by awegrzyn View Post

Trip has been postponed, partly due to weather.   In exchange I just booked Jackson Hole and Salt Lake City for 2/12 - 2/18.  As a side note I have to say Vermont hotels are more expensive, old,  and not available comparing to Utah/Wyoming.  The only thing that went up in price is the flight since it started dumping in Utah.  I think the ticket pricing engine is smart enough to figure out when to jack up prices.  Ticket went from $329 to about $485 and 2 hours after I booked it went up to $573.

 

I plan to hit

 

1.  Snowbird

2.  Deer Valley (have not been)

3.  Snowbasin (have not been)

4.  JackHo (have not been)

5.  JackHo (have not been)

 

I'm going with my kids, so that is the reason why the list looks the way it looks.

Sounds awful man. wink.gif

 

Have a great time!

post #51 of 51
Thread Starter 

Trip Report from Utah and Wyoming here:

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/118489/tr-snowbird-snowbasin-deervalley-snowking-jackson-hole
 

I was blown away by Wyoming, DeerValley, Snowbasin.

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