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post #301 of 351
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Originally Posted by GrizzledVeteran View Post


If it's so obvious, why are you so eager to be complacent about it despite the profteering off others' work? Cheating is 2d nature to you, too?
I'm not "grossly" or any other qualifier in "underestimating" anything. I'll wager your exaggeration is born from vicarious desires for success, by connection through what's successful.
Whose content was sold to Vail Resorts? Whose posts? Whose intellectual products?


Since you didn't answer my last post (I'll assume because you know you're wrong and are just trolling), I'll ask another question: Do you honestly believe that the "intellectual products" (i.e. forum chit chat and blather, much of which is wrong, subjective, petty debate or all of the above) was worth jack shit to Vail? The contents of the forum are not what makes it valuable; what makes it valuable are the hundreds of posters and readers (i.e. a collection of a very specific demographic) that frequent it. Some of the more professional contributions are also valuable, but as Cirque mentions, those were subject to compensation. Epic is the one that paid to harvest that value, not you or any other poster.

 

If you weren't comfortable contributing to "profiteering," you shouldn't have added all that "intellectual product" (grumpy ramblings?) to the site. It sounds like you should be mad at yourself. If Epic does institute a temporary editing feature, be sure to copy all your posts before deleting them; I'm sure you can sell them for big, big money elsewhere rolleyes.gif

 

As much I appreciate two-bit e-psychology, I really don't think those that support/understand the sale could care less about succeeding vicariously through Epic. They simply don't hold any ill will toward capitalism.

post #302 of 351
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Originally Posted by Cirquerider View Post

I am not an owner and not privy to the books, but my somewhat better than peripheral awareness is that the site was operated at a loss or perhaps break-even level until 2010.  In 2009, Epicski moved to the Huddler Platform, and it took a while until revenues from advertising were of any consequence, and many members here remember how painful the transition was as Epicski was the first client site for Huddler.  I don't keep the books and don't know what the budget details are, but I believe nearly all revenues were sunk back into the site for operating expenses and content development, with some funds going to some swag like hats, vests, stickers and other things.  While the forum posts are the first thing most members think of, it is the gear and resort reviews and aricles that are high-level content for the site now.  Much of that has been paid for with members receiving compensation for writing those articles.  It's fair to say this site remained a work of passion, not profit, and I certainly hope it paid off at least somewhat.  

 

I suspect that for some of the, er, longer-term members, that is a point that needs emphasizing. And for others, too, but it seems that the more recent one's join date, the less of a big deal this is. I didn't post much in the beginning, not really until after I attended some gatherings of one sort or the other, but I still sort of think of this place as it was in 2002, until I think about it. Many of still use it like that, though: for ski banter (and non-ski banter), gear and technique questions, meet-ups ... and ignore the commercial ramifications. This is just a bit of cold water, "hello reality" business. So you newbies out there go easy ... as crgildart said, We thought we were going into the corner pub, not Chili's. Until we opened our eyes, lol. 

post #303 of 351
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Originally Posted by segbrown View Post

 

I suspect that for some of the, er, longer-term members, that is a point that needs emphasizing. And for others, too, but it seems that the more recent one's join date, the less of a big deal this is. I didn't post much in the beginning, not really until after I attended some gatherings of one sort or the other, but I still sort of think of this place as it was in 2002, until I think about it. Many of still use it like that, though: for ski banter (and non-ski banter), gear and technique questions, meet-ups ... and ignore the commercial ramifications. This is just a bit of cold water, "hello reality" business. So you newbies out there go easy ... as crgildart said, We thought we were going into the corner pub, not Chili's. Until we opened our eyes, lol. 


That's a very good point. It seems like Epic used to have more of a sort of co-op-type feel, but slowly became more of a commercial venture. When I joined in '08, it seemed like any other forum or media-type website, but I guess it was something different to those that had been here longer.

 

What happened wasn't unique to Epic, though. It was formed back when the Internet was still very young. It was pretty common for once-tiny hobby websites to grow into major businesses, and Internet practices have evolved immeasurably since the late-90s. Heck, around the time Epic was founded, Google was based out of a garage.

post #304 of 351

Nolo and co.,

 

Congratulations on transacting this deal in a tough economy.  

 

Best wishes for a smooth transition,

 

-sharpedges

post #305 of 351

Congrats to everyone within the Epic community on what may turn out to be a super-abundant opportunity for all skiers.

 

@ Iriponsnow:   My posts are hardly "useless propaganda" and I deplore your public defamation.  The information I've posted here within Epic is based on 44-years of work in this industry and which work has brought about many improvements to ski bindings and to skiing safety (especially improved anti-pre-release characteristics of ski bindings), world-wide. 

My posts are based upon —

 

1—   providing my full name, not a pseudonym; 

2—   providing my full street address:   79A Mansfield View Drive, Stowe, Vermont; 

3—   clearly articulating my related-agenda:  helping skiing world-wide by improving ski binding performance; 

4—   co-developing as an independent consultant (while in high school in 1969) #1-selling ski bindings (world-wide) for a major French ski binding company; 

5—   performing my engineering-thesis on how ski bindings effect ski vibration at the Charles Stark Draper Labs (and on-snow) in conjunction with MIT Prof. Larry Young, Sc.D.; 

6—   co-authoring (together with many others) the so-called 'DIN-System'; 

7—   racing on the NorAm DH circuit (5th-ranked in the US in 1976) and developing special racing release adjustment values;  

8—   servicing hundreds of top racers' bindings that deploy my engineering developments at my on-snow lab / work-shop; 

9—   working in senior management for a major German ski binding company for 8-years—where we shipped hundreds of thousands of high-quality bindings ( Geze ) and created leading service systems for rental operators; 

10— authoring articles in SKI magazine on bindings;

11— inventing & developing the 1st hands-off clipless bicycle pedal / shoe system, creating the category of clipless pedals ( CycleBinding ) ... #1-rated in VeloNews and other bicycle-specific magazines for years; 

12— inventing & developing Tubbs 1st high-tech snowshoes causing the entire snowshoe market to expand 50 times its size and causing Tubbs to secure a sustained (and unprecedented) 85% brand-share for over 20 consecutive years; 

13— co-authoring a grant application involving hundreds of thousands of $ of biomechanical research that became 'granted' and conducted in Montréal — which research is still today the 'gold standard' on how ski bindings interact with skiing knee injuries;

14— resigning after a few months at Line ski binding company because the inventor & developer ( DD ) refused to make fundamental and necessary changes to the design of the binding;

15— being chairman of the Ski Binding Research Committee within the International Society for Skiing Safety ( ISSS ) from 2005 through 2011;

16— inventing, founding, developing, being president, secretary, treasurer, director—& being squeezed-out of—a ski binding company (still in litigation after 5-years & 600k of legal fees);  

17— AND NOW DEVELOPING MY OWN NEW SKI BINDING COMPANY — HOWELL SKI BINDINGS — TOTALLY UNAFFILIATED WITH ALL OTHER SKI BINDING COMPANIES, AND WHICH NEW BINDINGS ARE HIGHLY DIFFERENTIATED FROM ALL OTHERS BECAUSE ITS LATERAL-HEEL RELEASE CAUSES THE DESIGN TO UNIQUELY HAVE A STAND-HEIGHT THAT'S A MERE 16MM ABOVE THE TOP SURFACE OF THE SKI,  WHICH RACING MODEL IS MADE OF ALUMINUM-MAGNESIUM ALLOY HOUSINGS,  AND — WHEN PUBLICLY INTRODUCED IN 2017 — WILL BE FULLY TESTED AND PROVEN ON THE WC CIRCUIT,  WILL MEET (AND WILL EXCEED) MINIMUM INTERNATIONAL SAFETY STANDARDS ISO 9462, ISO 9465 AND 11087 AS WELL AS MEETING AND EXCEEDING 'STANDARD INDUSTRY PRACTICE' FOR DURABILITY AND ANTI-PRE-RELEASE.

 

I live in a town with real skiing — where there is no "useless propaganda" involving my full-time work (despite your malicious intent, Iriponsnow).

 

Rick Howell

President,

Howell Ski Bindings

79A Mansfield View Drive   /   PO Box 1274

Stowe, VT  05672  USA

1.802.793.4849

<rick.howell@howellskibindings>

 

Howell™  Ski Binding Confidence™    ( Introduction, 2017 )

 

Patents will be applied  (1st-to-file becomes law March, 2013;  in the meantime, it's 1st-to-invent :)

 

Copyright © by Howell Ski Binding Company, 2013.  All rights reserved. 

post #306 of 351
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Originally Posted by iriponsnow View Post

 

 

   2) Why has the rhetoric & useless propaganda via KneeBinding, Chairman & Rick Howell been so protected & defended?

As illustrated above, I got the impression that there have been plenty of dissenting opinions and lively discussions bantering with Howell back and forth.  I've seen plenty of posts from him defending his opinions and research amid criticism from other physics and engineering educated folks here.  I can't say that I've witnessed any intervention by the EpicSki staff or mods on Richard's behalf.  Did I miss something, or did some stuff go down among you mods about that someplace that is hidden from general view?

 

Edit, a reliable source has informed me that moderators haven't edited anything or anybody on behalf of Howell or his products.  So, we haven't missed anything ...YET wink.gif


Edited by crgildart - 1/8/13 at 12:45pm
post #307 of 351

Note to self:

 

You have successfully read through this thread; consider this your bookmark.

 

You have not made any comment on this thread save for this one.  

 

You did find some pictures you took years ago were used via a link.  You were fine with that.  You marveled how nice they came out on a old 1.2 m pix Kodak camera you got free for buying a set of snow tires for the Jeep.

 

You and Betsy are still planning on visiting Bazzer and Bazzer Jr. at Vail tomorrow.

 

You found yourself in great spirit as you typed these comments.  Confirm for me that you've maintained that high level of joy when you revisit this thread. 

 

Thanks Don,

 

Don

post #308 of 351
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Originally Posted by DonDenver View Post

Note to self:

 

You have successfully read through this thread; consider this your bookmark.

 

You have not made any comment on this thread save for this one.  

 

You did find some pictures you took years ago were used via a link.  You were fine with that.  You marveled how nice they came out on a old 1.2 m pix Kodak camera you got free for buying a set of snow tires for the Jeep.

 

You and Betsy are still planning on visiting Bazzer and Bazzer Jr. at Vail tomorrow.

 

You found yourself in great spirit as you typed these comments.  Confirm for me that you've maintained that high level of joy when you revisit this thread. 

 

Thanks Don,

 

Don

I enjoyed meeting and skiing with you at LGC, Don. Also Uncle Louie. Let's have some positivity in this thread. 

post #309 of 351
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Originally Posted by DonDenver View Post

Note to self:

 

You have successfully read through this thread; consider this your bookmark.

 

You have not made any comment on this thread save for this one.  

 

You did find some pictures you took years ago were used via a link.  You were fine with that.  You marveled how nice they came out on a old 1.2 m pix Kodak camera you got free for buying a set of snow tires for the Jeep.

 

You and Betsy are still planning on visiting Bazzer and Bazzer Jr. at Vail tomorrow.

 

You found yourself in great spirit as you typed these comments.  Confirm for me that you've maintained that high level of joy when you revisit this thread. 

 

Thanks Don,

 

Don

Glad to hear you are doing well........but you do look a little tired Don biggrin.gif

 

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post #310 of 351

I think I'm like lots of people posting in this thread. Surprised, even shocked, by this deal. No ill will whatsoever toward Nolo or any of the others who've worked hard to make this site fun, and intention to keep posting here barring some really bad future juju. Hell, it's just an Internet forum. If it keeps being fun, I'll stay with it. Otherwise, I bail. Pretty simple. 

post #311 of 351
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Originally Posted by Richard Howell View Post

Congrats to everyone within the Epic community on what may turn out to be a super-abundant opportunity for all skiers.

 

@ Iriponsnow:   My posts are hardly "useless propaganda" and I deplore your public defamation.  The information I've posted here within Epic is based on 44-years of work in this industry and which work has brought about many improvements to ski bindings and to skiing safety (especially improved anti-pre-release characteristics of ski bindings), world-wide. 

My posts are based upon —

 

Not sure why people are nailing this one all the time. Seems legit to me. I ski knee binding for several years. 

post #312 of 351

Uncle  Louie/SugarCube, SMJ/his lovely bride, Me/Philpug.........

Perhaps we should plan a Vail Resorts Marital Bliss GTG Tour.  

I think the six of us could have a great time of it! 

 

We could call it Bears Skiing in Epic Marital Bliss!

post #313 of 351

It would be fun, but Mrs. SMJ is not an epic member, has never had any interest in online forums.  She is a great skier though and the proud wearer of a Silver Pin.

post #314 of 351
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Originally Posted by SkiMangoJazz View Post

It would be fun, but Mrs. SMJ is not an epic member, has never had any interest in online forums.  She is a great skier though and the proud wearer of a Silver Pin.

A member of the tour by association. biggrin.gif

post #315 of 351
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Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post

Uncle  Louie/SugarCube, SMJ/his lovely bride, Me/Philpug.........

Perhaps we should plan a Vail Resorts Marital Bliss GTG Tour.  

I think the six of us could have a great time of it! 

 

We could call it Bears Skiing in Epic Marital Bliss!


Hey, we will come and crash that party! We were married in Vail at Piney River Ranch. That was before the Internet and Epicski though.

 

I don't know if PRR is still a Vail owned property or not?

 

The photos on their site look just like our wedding photos http://pineyriverranch.com

post #316 of 351

Hey folks,

 

Well I have signed in as Fast1EV (my first screen name) circa 2/2000. Many of you know me as Powdigger or just Ed.  I have read this entire thread and like most threads there is good discussion, some flaming, some trolls and some histrionics.

 

All I can say is that, as maybe one of the more tenured users around here including being one of the first attendees of the first Gathering, is that the USERS make the forums what they are and EPICSKI is essentially the forum content.  AC recognized this early on and he made the forums central to the website.

 

If we don’t want Vail to screw this up it is up to us.  I’ve seen numerous platform changes, server changes and ownership changes.  Everyone was nervous AC sold off his controlling interest and day to day control of Epic. But you know what? The forums have not really changed that much since I joined in February of 2000. However, epic does have better content outside of the forums, which was always what AC had hoped for and now epic has the chance to really grow. I’m hopeful for the future of Epic, in that, there is really not much I can control but my own participation.

 

Congratulations Epicski!!

 

AC, who would have known.

 

Now everybody shut up and go ski.  Hope to make a run or two with some of you soon.

 

Fast1EV (Aka Powdigger)/ Ed 

post #317 of 351

It's really cool to see these semi dormant old timers pop back in here to give a shout out beercheer.gif and share their experience with the previous tenure changes.  Did anyone send out an email of this announcement to all registered users?  I think I have most email stuff turned off so it may have gone out without me seeing it.  Anyway, might be a good thing to do if no one has already.

post #318 of 351
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Originally Posted by Fast1EV View Post

Hey folks,

 

Well I have signed in as Fast1EV (my first screen name) circa 2/2000. Many of you know me as Powdigger or just Ed.  I have read this entire thread and like most threads there is good discussion, some flaming, some trolls and some histrionics.

 

All I can say is that, as maybe one of the more tenured users around here including being one of the first attendees of the first Gathering, is that the USERS make the forums what they are and EPICSKI is essentially the forum content.  AC recognized this early on and he made the forums central to the website.

 

If we don’t want Vail to screw this up it is up to us.  I’ve seen numerous platform changes, server changes and ownership changes.  Everyone was nervous AC sold off his controlling interest and day to day control of Epic. But you know what? The forums have not really changed that much since I joined in February of 2000. However, epic does have better content outside of the forums, which was always what AC had hoped for and now epic has the chance to really grow. I’m hopeful for the future of Epic, in that, there is really not much I can control but my own participation.

 

Congratulations Epicski!!

 

AC, who would have known.

 

Now everybody shut up and go ski.  Hope to make a run or two with some of you soon.

 

Fast1EV (Aka Powdigger)/ Ed 

 

Ed you old dog you. Who's left here that was at the first Gathering with AC?

 

You, me, Pierre? Anyone else? Anyone have any pictures of that?

post #319 of 351
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post

It's really cool to see these semi dormant old timers pop back in here to give a shout out beercheer.gif and share their experience with the previous tenure changes.  Did anyone send out an email of this announcement to all registered users?  I think I have most email stuff turned off so it may have gone out without me seeing it.  Anyway, might be a good thing to do if no one has already.

 

 

It's interesting how the majority have the most realistic view of this event.

 

I hope some of them stick around.

post #320 of 351

It is fascinating how western corporatization and commodification are ubiquitous. At the same time, an oppositional trend is the entitlement phenomenon, now spread to the academic world through MOOCs. One would assume that if the humanism inherent free education is self evident and for the greater good, to coin Bentham, free ski education is equally humanist and for the greater good.  ES is a case of open source evolution......beercheer.gif

post #321 of 351

^^^^^Say WHAT?????words.gif

post #322 of 351

beercheer.gif to economic based affirmative action for the next ESA!  Seriously though, I'd welcome some kind of community outreach ski trips for inner city kids like some have tried for golf and tennis.

post #323 of 351

Wait, I know what comes next...

 

post #324 of 351
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post

beercheer.gif to economic based affirmative action for the next ESA!  Seriously though, I'd welcome some kind of community outreach ski trips for inner city kids like some have tried for golf and tennis.

 

How about a program for the elderly?th_dunno-1[1].gif

post #325 of 351
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Originally Posted by Lars View Post

 

How about a program for the elderly?th_dunno-1%5B1%5D.gif

 

 

You don't qualify for the "elderly" category..........yet! So, no freebee for you.

post #326 of 351
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Originally Posted by BillA View Post

 

 

You don't qualify for the "elderly" category..........yet! So, no freebee for you.

Nah, I guess i'm still a "rabble rouser" old bumper of a guy.

post #327 of 351

Colorado Spring Trip 056.JPG

 

New cover photo for Vail Resorts Magazine

 

Who cares if they use my picture? I don't

post #328 of 351

^^^No good.  You're not wearing Bogner.  You're not wearing a helmet.  Probably 50 more reasons why you fail the Vail..

post #329 of 351
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post

^^^No good.  You're not wearing Bogner.  You're not wearing a helmet.  Probably 50 more reasons why you fail the Vail..

 

What? You've cut me to the quick.

 

I'm part Austrian, doesn't that matter?

 

What about style points?

 

What about the Nepalese Hat?

 

WTH?

post #330 of 351
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post

^^^No good.  You're not wearing Bogner.  You're not wearing a helmet.  Probably 50 more reasons why you fail the Vail..

 

I was just going to say that all this thread needed was a helmet debate and it would have everything. 

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