Originally Posted by vsirin
With any of the rub ons I've ever used, it takes a lot of corking/rubbing in to get them to last even 3 or 4 runs. You're right that you need heat from the friction to get any adhesion to the base at all - at least with the few products I've used but I don't generally like rub ons so I am a lot less experienced with them than many. Generally, I find rub ons to be a lot more work than hot wax plus it is work I have to do at least some of on the hill with no bench etc. so it is either awkward if I am standing up and trying to balance the ski upside down on something or else cold and messy as I kneel in the snow to put the wax on. This is an especially undesirable approach for me since I got a pair of white ski pants last winter.
Putting race aside for the moment -
My feelings/thoughts/experience are that if you successfully prep your skis, crayoning/corking something like Zoom in now and again will give you a successful day of skiing. Will you shave .05 off your time in a race; no, but if you need to do that, why are you not hot waxing?
By appropriately prepping them, I mean several hot cycles of wax so the bases are saturated. I will, in between hot waxing, I brush, crayon in Zoom, use the Ray's Way (RW) doohicky, just to smooth it out, then take my roto cork to it to really get it in there, one or two passes with a scraper and brush them out.
So far has worked great. Using the roto cork is mainly out of laziness and having a bad shoulder. I can make one pass with the roto cork and accomplish what RW would in ten or so minutes and I don't get an aerobic work out .
I tend to use the RW even when I hot wax. First I crayon on, then RW before I drip more on. This way I know the iron will never touch naked Ptex.
I consider rubbing good for a day (as long as the prep work is done) and hot waxing good for a weekend or so depending on conditions and the amount/type of skiing I'm doing.
RW is a bit of work but the advantage is you don't have to put iron heat to your bases. I don't think I can create enough friction to damage my skis with RW. Roto corking possible but that would be more from wear than heat and delamination.
I've never done this on the hill and have never seen anyone do it gracefully on the hill either. Successfully, yes, but it does look awkward.