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Salomon Xscream 7

post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 
36 yrs old

I just spent two days on these (185) and loved them. I'm this close to buying a pair. I found them to be extremely user friendly and versatile.

The shape helps them handle bumps, though not too big or too steep...then they felt lumbery.

They floated great in about a foot of new light cold snow. Turned in the stuff great. I ripped straight down open snow then noodled through trees. They did have some shovel-wobble in wind packed snow that offered more resistance, but not bad.

I liked their springy feel in the powder. Felt lively there as well as on groomed and over terrain features. Fun!

Turned well in trees. Even some really tight stuff I got into on my way down from the bowl.

I do wonder if the soft front (why it initiates turns so well) will handle heavier, wetter, cruddier snow.

On groomers (I did cruise some blues and yes some greens going to and fro)they turn really well, super easy. Relaxing.

They held ice better than my Bandit X's. Is this due to the Bandit's having less sidecut? I think those tend to skid more on hard snow when turned across the fall line.

I think they are similar skis to my faves from last year, the Bandit X (184). They float better. The stiffer shovel on the Bandit may plow through hard snow better but these turned better under the snow.

Ski Depot in Winter Park has them for $399.
post #2 of 10
Hey Astro, few things came to mind after reading your review

If you're an expert, you should really be looking at the Scream9 or Series. The 7 is really an intermediate level ski.

Another thing to that jumped to mind is that the Scream7 is pretty similar to the BanditX. Only difference is 3 mm in the tip and 2 in the tail. Performance is pretty similar as well. If you want to upgrade, you should upgrade to something higher performing, instead of the same level.

If price is the issue, there are other ways to go about getting cheaper skis than looking at intermediate models. If you can hold out til the end of the season, most shops sell their demos, which is a great way to pick up well maintained (albeit heavily used) used skis.

Also, I recommend looking at the Dynastar 4x4 ATV ski. For some reason, no one wants to buy these skis, but they are great all mountain boards. I think the problem is that they lack the "cool" flame graphics of the powertrac. The ATV is exactly the same as the powertrac, minus some metal. Skis great still. (I know a LOT of people that prefer the ATV over the Powertrac!) I've seen ATV's for around $400 or less, or if you can't find them locally, I just looked and saw them for $460 on skiershop.com. You can look around at other online sites as well(try skidealer.com). ATV has much more performance than the Scream 7 or 9 in my opinion, and is often dirt cheap. Peterkeelty.com named them best all mountain ski of the year, and considering their cheap price, its an *amazing* deal for skiers on a budget. Good luck with whatever you do.<FONT size="1">

[This message has been edited by Matter (edited January 16, 2001).]</FONT>
post #3 of 10
Thread Starter 

I was going to come back and amend my post by saying that I comfortable and aggressively ski blacks: bumps, trees, steep so I rate myself an expert. Maybe I am an advanced skier?

I do like to relax though...

Also, I prefer less stiff skis. I owned the G31 last year and sold it. It was not as all-around as I prefer. In some conditions it was great but when I got tired it wanted to run out from under me. Scary following my board buddies in trees!

I realize the Bandit X is very similar to the 7.

I skied the 9 in 187 and 177. The 187 was a great cruiser: really held an edge and felt comfy and predictable at speed. SMoothed out funky terrain But planky, heavy, damp.

At 177 it was a blast, a very different ski than the 187 (which was actually last years ski). It bumped really well and it was great in trees. But I overpowered the tail several times as well as the front of the ski in deep snow.

I owned the Rossi 4s for many years. I focused on bumps at Mary Jane for many years. The 4s was replaced by the pre-shaped version of the Viper Z, which have not been skied at all since last Christmas when I tried the Bandit XX up at Lost trail in MT.

Is this why I prefer a softer ski--my many years on softer flexing skis?

I hear you. I appreciate the advice. But I'm not sure a stiffer ski is what I want. Maybe I need to go to Igneous (sp?) and have them build me a soft flexing but torsionally rigid ski with width, and that doesn't weigh a ton. Did I mention I like a lighter ski? My aging knees prefer it that way.

This ski quest is confusing. If I could take a bag of skis up to the Parsenne Bowl at WP and do a few runs on say 5 or 6 diff. skis through the same terrain I'd really get a good feel.

I do think maybe the ATV or the Bandit XX is the way to go. But I sure had a great time on the 7's.

They say men over rate their abilities. I am aware of this and I hope I am not doing that.
I do want a better floater. I think my progression from skinny straight skis to shaped wider skis has taken a bit of time. The Bandits were the least shaped ski I tried last year. Maybe they felt the most similar to my Vipers so I went with them?

But I've found I like width and I like shape.

I wish I had tried a few more skis last year.

I did think of trying the Series but the shop where I had demoed was sold out so I couldn't have bought a pair and used my demo $ toward the price.

My experience last year on the Series in 184...it felt heavy and damp. I wondered about taking it a size down...I did that with the Bandit XX and found it still rocked but had a bit less float. The shorter size nimbled it up for trees, etc.

AYEEE!! Monkey madness.

oh yeah, my list continues: the Volkl g21's & the Salomon Supermtns are skis I would love to try, as well as the Pilot 10.

Thanks for the websites!!
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[This message has been edited by astrochimp (edited January 16, 2001).]</FONT>
post #4 of 10
I would second the ATV recommendation. A highly underrated ski and a great value as Matter points out. I'm 5'10", 150lb, advanced, and ski it in 178 cm. For someone who is on the lighter side of 165 lb and not *super* aggressive they are a great all-mountain ski. Good edge hold, effective in heavy crud, and surprisingly nimble. Not excessively damp (which is what I prefer anyways).<FONT size="1">

[This message has been edited by andrew_tai (edited January 16, 2001).]</FONT>
post #5 of 10
If you like auser friendly ski one that will not beat the hell out of you at the end of the day but still has guts for the steep and deep then i think you should look into the ModX. Yes they are not cheap, but it is one of the better all mountain skis for moguls.Wonderful float in the powder.I have skied them for about 30 days so far and i am still Looking for the weak spot the one thing that I wished they could do better.Still have not found it.Give them a demo I think you will like them.

The Best skier in the world is the One with the biggest smile. Utah49
post #6 of 10
Thread Starter 
Yeah, thanks for further confusing the issue!

Another ski to add to the mix...I think I was not even looking at the K2's due to the number of skis already being considered.

Seriously, I'll check into demoing the ModX. I've only heard good things. And the only way to know is to go.
post #7 of 10
Thread Starter 
I just read through the two modx strings and I must say this ski sounds like what I am after. At about 180 lbs and with a preference for short turns and trees I'll try the 181.

I loved the 7 but as I said it felt as if the shovel got noodly in heavier snow. If the ModX can make those easy turns, has snap and can handle the heavier snow then this could be for me.
post #8 of 10
I agree, MOD X sounds exactly like what you are looking for. Forgiving, easy to ski, easy to initiate turns, ultra smooth, great in short or long turns, even good in bumps. Fantastic do it all ski. Only reason I never recommended them in my earlier post is because they are costly little buggers. If you are paying $550 or more, you should demand to get the Axis X, which is just next years version of the MOD X with red graphics and no piezo. If you're getting skis this late in the season, might as well have next years gear, especially considering most shops are selling the MOD X and Axis X for close to the same price.
post #9 of 10
Thread Starter 
thanks Matter

It is true that one of the points I liked about the Salomon 7 was the price.

I plan to ski the ModX at Winter Park on Saturday; should be hard packed runs and junk snow up in the bowl with some light stuff in the trees...and bumps.

Sunday I may test the ATV and the Series.

I should have a much better view of things after the two days.

I'll look into the Axis.

Why would K2 remove the dampening device on the new version?
post #10 of 10
Axis X is just a MOD X without the piezo. I've heard they ski exactly the same. K2 discovered that the piezo does very little when combined with the MOD technology. The MOD tech dampens the ski enough that the piezo isn't really necessary. It simply isn't worth their time and additional price to the consumer to continue putting it in their skis now that the MOD stuff is here. So next year, the piezo is absent from all their new skis.

MOD X is discontinued next season, and the Axis series replaces it. Axis X is in stores now already, Axis X Pro should be arriving soon as well. The shorty slalom Mach S is another 2002 ski that has already arrived. I'm not sure whats happening with the Patriot skis next season, they may be getting a big overhaul as well.

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