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110mm brakes on 119mm under foot?

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I'm looking at purchasing a set of Volkl Shiros and I'm starting to look at bindings before I pull the trigger. I really like the Griffons that I currently have on my Mantras and I'm wondering if the 110mm brakes on the Griffons can be bent out to accomodate the 119mm skis? 

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Originally Posted by burknutz11 View Post

I'm looking at purchasing a set of Volkl Shiros and I'm starting to look at bindings before I pull the trigger. I really like the Griffons that I currently have on my Mantras and I'm wondering if the 110mm brakes on the Griffons can be bent out to accomodate the 119mm skis? 

Yes.
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One thing to consider on a powder ski is how easy it is to step in. I find Markers (MX12 and Griffon) to require a lot more pressure to step into than my solly z`12 Ti's (which I wouldn't recommend due to breakage).  What bindings do people feel are easy to step into?

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Originally Posted by oldgoat View Post

One thing to consider on a powder ski is how easy it is to step in. I find Markers (MX12 and Griffon) to require a lot more pressure to step into than my solly z`12 Ti's (which I wouldn't recommend due to breakage).  What bindings do people feel are easy to step into?

From that perspective I'd throw a nod to Looks. They take more force to step in, but have the added benefit that you can click in by pulling up the heel with your hand. I've used that on occasion in deep snow.

However, not sure that has anything to do wih the OP's question. To that, I echo Denny1969, yes.
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Thank you all for the replies. Just out of curiosity, what is the limit you would want to bend at 110mm brake? I know the 130mm  Jester/Duke brakes are compatible with the Griffon. At what point would you want to go with the wider brake? 

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If you straighten the brake arm out and then put a new bend in it (rather than just angling the arms out a little bit), you can actually bend them quite far.  I've seen pics on TGR of people bending 80mm brakes to fit 130 skis.  You don't have much of the brake arm left sticking down below the ski at that point, I'm not sure how functional they'd actually be as brakes at that point, but you *can* do it.

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Look brakes don't bend very easily.  Having fought them before and achieved functional,  but less than optimal results,  I used a better method recently to put 80mm brakes on a 105mm ski.  The brake arms are two separate pieces of steel,  and they can be removed by disassembling the brake assembly.  There's a long pin that goes through the plastic base which holds the whole assembly together.  It's easy to drive that pin out with a long punch/hammer (doesn't take a lot of force),  then disassemble the brake so you have two individual arms to work with.  From there,  it's much easier to mount the arms in a vise for straightening and rebending.  Not sure if it's necessary,  but I used a propane torch to heat the metal before bending.  This will destroy the chrome in that area,  but my skis aren't for display purposes.

 

I recommend doing one brake at a time,  so you have the other brake for a reference for how it goes back together.  The spring has a fair amount of tension,  but it doesn't really put up much of a fight as long as you unhook the outside "tangs" and reposition those last by pushing them back into place with a large screwdriver or similar tool.  The brake arms have several angles to them,  so you need to compare them to an original brake arm before rebending.

 

AM.

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