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Good All-Mountain skis, ~87-92mm wide?

post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 

Well, after a fairly funny story involving backwards-mounted skis and a boatload of store credit, I've found myself in the market for a new pair of skis and bindings. I'm looking for a good, all-mountain ski, and a decent pair of bindings to go with them.

 

About me:

-I'm a taller and heavier skier, at around 6'2" and 250lbs.

-I'm a solid type 3.

-I ski about 70% on the east coast, 30% out west, and I most often ski at either Mad River Glen or Jackson Hole. 

-I ski pretty much everything except for race courses and backcountry, whether it be moguls, trees, groomers, or even the occasional park lap.

 

 

So, because of where I ski, I'm basically looking for something that can hold a good edge on ice and hardpack, but still have decent float in the powder for when I'm out west. As far as details go, I'd like something around 87-92, but I can be convinced to go a bit wider or narrower, if it would make for a more spot-on ski. Twintips are nice, but are far from necessary and I'm fine with or without them. That being said, here are some skis I dug up that might be good. Any additional recommendations or votes of confidence are more than welcome, and I'll be sure to respond to any ideas.

 

Line Prophet 90's

-sound pretty good overall

-not sure how they would hold up on ice

-not sure how they would hold up for a heavier skier

 

Salomon Rocker 2 92's

-they appear to be a remake of the twenty twelves, which were my original purchase, and have since been destroyed before I could even try them out.

-not sure what has been changed this year

-not as highly reviewed as the other two skis

 

Blizzard Bushwhackers

-very well reviewed

-Apparently hold an edge pretty well

-not so sure how they ski for heavier skiers

 

Once again, any recommendations are good ones. It'd be great to hear from some fellow heavyweights, but anyone's opinions are welcome. 

Thanks for reading, and have a good day.

 

-Atrain

post #2 of 11

Welcome to EpicSki.  There are several more skis that you should consider.

 

Elan 888, 88mm used to be called Apex 

Salomon Rocker2 90

Rossi Experience 88

Nordica Steadfast, 90mm

Atomic Nomad Crimson Ti, 88mm

 

When I decided to get a ~90mm ski last season I demoed the Line P90, Bushwacker and Steadfast.  I didn't care for the P90 because it felt slow and heavy.  The Bushwacker was OK, but it didn't leave me begging for more time on it.  I bought the Steadfast because it was simply more fun to ski, quick in the trees, good float and good edge grip.  Now, I ski at Red Lodge Mountain in Montana almost exlusively and I'm only 5'7" and 145-150 pounds.  So I can't say how it would be for someone your size, but if you can demo it, why not.  If we had better snow here I could tell you what I think of the Elans since I bought a pair for my son for Christmas, but the snow is avoiding us.frown.gif

post #3 of 11
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Originally Posted by mtcyclist View Post

Welcome to EpicSki.  There are several more skis that you should consider.

 

Elan 888, 88mm used to be called Apex 

Salomon Rocker2 90

Rossi Experience 88

Nordica Steadfast, 90mm

Atomic Nomad Crimson Ti, 88mm

 

When I decided to get a ~90mm ski last season I demoed the Line P90, Bushwacker and Steadfast.  I didn't care for the P90 because it felt slow and heavy.  The Bushwacker was OK, but it didn't leave me begging for more time on it.  I bought the Steadfast because it was simply more fun to ski, quick in the trees, good float and good edge grip.  Now, I ski at Red Lodge Mountain in Montana almost exlusively and I'm only 5'7" and 145-150 pounds.  So I can't say how it would be for someone your size, but if you can demo it, why not.  If we had better snow here I could tell you what I think of the Elans since I bought a pair for my son for Christmas, but the snow is avoiding us.frown.gif

 

 

Thanks a lot. I think I could probably just cross off the bushwhackers, and I'll definitely check out the Nordica's. Also, I'm a bit on the fence about the Rocker 2 90's, but I'll give them a shot two. As for the snow, you're preaching to the choir -- some mountains still aren't even open yet, and the ones that are aren't much better at the moment.

post #4 of 11

I did a review of the Elan 88xti Amphibio over on the gear review forum. It is a great ski, and would hold up well. 

 

I also like the Head Rock n' Roll, although it might be too soft for you.

post #5 of 11

Here's a thread from last January that offered what was (at the time) a preview in concept of what is currently on the shelves. This wasn't so much model specific although that came up in the general thread drift. http://www.epicski.com/t/109358/whats-becoming-of-the-frontside-ski I post this to save myself a bunch of retyping to explain my terms and wasting further bandwidth on stuff that's already been sorta hashed out a bit.

 

So.......it sounds as if you want a "versatile frontsider" and your width criteria is certainly about right. In fact, a small difference in width is hardly the determining factor that folks seem to think it is. However, your initial selections would not be very high on my personal list of recommendations for what you ask with the exception of the Bushwhacker which at least is worth consideration. Others have mentioned some better choices already and the Nordica Steadfast or Rossi Ex 88 would be my choices of the skis mentioned so far. Others to consider would be the Dynastar Outland 87 (similar build to Rossi Ex 88 but a more versatile shape) And the Blizzard Magnum 8.5Ti (A better choice than the BW for a bigger guy and especially when hard snow is among the criteria). I own the Mag 8.5Ti and although I live in the west, that ski will probably be on my feet at least 40-50% of the time this season. I've already skied it twice on hardpack and once on a 6" mixed conditions day. Although I had a wider (98mm) ski in the car, I never felt any need to go fetch it. If I still lived in the East something of that sort that would normally be an optimal ski close to 80% of the time.

 

SJ

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Originally Posted by SierraJim View Post

Here's a thread from last January that offered what was (at the time) a preview in concept of what is currently on the shelves. This wasn't so much model specific although that came up in the general thread drift. http://www.epicski.com/t/109358/whats-becoming-of-the-frontside-ski I post this to save myself a bunch of retyping to explain my terms and wasting further bandwidth on stuff that's already been sorta hashed out a bit.

 

So.......it sounds as if you want a "versatile frontsider" and your width criteria is certainly about right. In fact, a small difference in width is hardly the determining factor that folks seem to think it is. However, your initial selections would not be very high on my personal list of recommendations for what you ask with the exception of the Bushwhacker which at least is worth consideration. Others have mentioned some better choices already and the Nordica Steadfast or Rossi Ex 88 would be my choices of the skis mentioned so far. Others to consider would be the Dynastar Outland 87 (similar build to Rossi Ex 88 but a more versatile shape) And the Blizzard Magnum 8.5Ti (A better choice than the BW for a bigger guy and especially when hard snow is among the criteria). I own the Mag 8.5Ti and although I live in the west, that ski will probably be on my feet at least 40-50% of the time this season. I've already skied it twice on hardpack and once on a 6" mixed conditions day. Although I had a wider (98mm) ski in the car, I never felt any need to go fetch it. If I still lived in the East something of that sort that would normally be an optimal ski close to 80% of the time.

 

SJ

 

Thanks for the info there. I like the dyna's and the magnums, but I'm not sure that the magnums are wide enough to give me that much float. That being said, I'm sure that could be fixed by skiing faster.

post #7 of 11

I hate to be that guy, but you should definitely consider a Kastle MX 88 in 188cm.  Best ski ever.

post #8 of 11

-Rossi Experience 88

-Elan 88XTi

-Kastle MX88

-and for something far cheaper but still good (though softer snow biased), last year's Dynastar Legend 94

post #9 of 11
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Originally Posted by Atrain View Post

 

Thanks for the info there. I like the dyna's and the magnums, but I'm not sure that the magnums are wide enough to give me that much float. That being said, I'm sure that could be fixed by skiing faster.

 

I'm not sure "that much float" can be defined by width. For example, the Mag 8.5 (85mm) floats better than some 88mm skis.......say a Kastle MX88, b/c the flex is more important than a few mm of width. If any single bit of advice here could sink in..........it might well that a few mm of width are far overshadowed by the other factors of ski design such as flex (by far the #1) and rocker which is certainly contributory if not definitive.

 

SJ

post #10 of 11

i had my steadfasts out tonight...0C temps at base, -2C mid mtn....packed out conditions on groomers

 

man can they rip...

they are more front piste oriented, imo, and when you 'lock and load' 'em on edge they

just rail so many turn shapes but esp like med- longer radius turns

...they're so light yet you'd think they have some titanal in them the way they lock in a carve

(but they don't...instead they have some carbon/foam composite, i believe for lightness and stiffness)

.....just had them out a few times, getting them dialed in, finding best way to steer 'em, ... and am now pleasantly surprised.smile.gif

 

Quote:

Originally Posted by mtcyclist View Post

Welcome to EpicSki.  There are several more skis that you should consider.

 

Elan 888, 88mm used to be called Apex 

Salomon Rocker2 90

Rossi Experience 88

Nordica Steadfast, 90mm

Atomic Nomad Crimson Ti, 88mm

 

When I decided to get a ~90mm ski last season I demoed the Line P90, Bushwacker and Steadfast.  I didn't care for the P90 because it felt slow and heavy.  The Bushwacker was OK, but it didn't leave me begging for more time on it.  I bought the Steadfast because it was simply more fun to ski, quick in the trees, good float and good edge grip.  Now, I ski at Red Lodge Mountain in Montana almost exlusively and I'm only 5'7" and 145-150 pounds.  So I can't say how it would be for someone your size, but if you can demo it, why not.  If we had better snow here I could tell you what I think of the Elans since I bought a pair for my son for Christmas, but the snow is avoiding us.frown.gif


Edited by canali - 12/27/12 at 12:36am
post #11 of 11

Don't overlook the Kastle LX92s; I'm 230ish and ski them in 184; right now they are my favorite alpine ski (I also have 191 Mantras and 188 S7s).

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