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Skibikes and Snow Bikes now permitted at all Vail Resorts in Colorado and California

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New for the 2012 - 2013 ski season, Vail Resorts is now allowing skbikes and snow bikes at its ski resorts in Colorado and California. In Colorado this includes Vail, Beaver Creek, Breckenridge, and Keystone.  I mentioned this in an earlier thread but I felt it needed its own breakout thread.

 

I contacted Vail Resorts to get their skibike rules and regulations.  I also talked to the Breckenridge Health & Safety Manager for further clarification on some rules.

 

The rules are:

 

Skibikes/Snowbikes – Allowed under the following parameters:

 

• Bike must have no more than two (2) skis.

• Must have metal edges on the skis.

• Must have a seat.

• May only have one ride per bike.

• Must be designed to load the lift without slowing or stopping.

• Must be loaded within the envelope of the chair; bike counts as a rider on the chair lift.

• Not allowed in terrain parks.

• May be restricted in certain areas of the mountain and lifts for safety reasons.

• No homemade bikes.

• Retention device.

 

 

Vail Resort does NOT allow the following alternative sliding devices at our resorts including but not limited to:

- Snowskates, SkiTrikes, plastic snowboards, Sleds/discs for the purpose of sledding, Snowscooters, Toboggans, Tubes (expect in designated venues, i.e. Adventure Ridge, Adventure Point, etc.), Bodysleds, Airboards, Ghosky.

This list is subject to change at any time and may have slight variations at each resort.

Vail Resorts employee use of Skibikes/Snowbikes, Snowdecks and other alternative sliding devices are not permissible forms of transportation to and from work stations. The exception to this is guided Skibike/Snowbike tours from our activities groups and/or instruction from our ski schools.

 

What I clarified with specific mention was the following:

 

No homemade skibikes which includes conversion skibikes.  They want bikes to be as manufactured as possible.

Leashes must be worn at all times.

No skibikes permitted in any Vail Resorts terrain park.  Unfortunately this now includes Keystone which has long permitted them there.

Skibikes must be loaded into chairlift.   Skibikes like Geary's must not be carried underneath the chairlift.

Peg skibikers are not required to wear foot skis.  

No checkout rides are required.

Lessons and rentals are currently only being offered at Keystone.

No license required to ride at Vail Resorts.  

 

This is a big win for skibikers  so let's not lose this.

 

I'm posting more skibike information as I receive it at http://coloradoskibikerskibikingblog.blogspot.com/

post #2 of 12

That brings back memories. I was at Keystone late in 2001 (our visas were delayed by a certain incident in new york) and during our training, they brought out the ski bikes and let us loose from the top on them. Oh boy! But oddly, never saw them again. Nice to see they're allowed everywhere now. Weird things but another way to fool with the snow and the hill.

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Update:

 

At the end of last season Vail changed their terrain park policy.

 

Skibikes are now permitted in their terrain parks but not recommended there.  Needless to say, the terrain parks at Breckenridge and Vail are now prime targets. :cool

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We allow them under the same basic rules except I have never seen one that needed a retention device since they pretty much stop when they hit the snow. Maybe on really steep terrain they may cut loose a bit more. I could also foresee issues if the became very popular and numerous. 

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I was at galactic snowsports buying rental equipment for a resort I worked at and in one of the corners of the warehouse I notice A FLEET OF USED SKI BiKES, needless to say I went home with two of them. Anyone that grew up watching "Better off Dead"knows that this was a huge score. I've broken it out many times. I used to use it on night snowmaking shifts to check the guns, so much fun.

 

Ant - you ever work at Crested Butte?

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Night skibiking is so much fun.   The snowmakers at Winter Park use them too.  

 

Happy to report that Crested Butte got on board the end of last season.   They allow both peggers and skibobs.  They have these weird terrain restrictions though.  Obviously they haven't heard about the helicopter drop at Silverton Mountain last season.   The staff at Silverton were blown away.  If you don't believe me, call Pedal the Peaks in Durango and ask to speak to the manager.  He'll tell you about his little adventure in great detail.

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We allow them under the same basic rules except I have never seen one that needed a retention device since they pretty much stop when they hit the snow. Maybe on really steep terrain they may cut loose a bit more. I could also foresee issues if the became very popular and numerous. 

 

Hey, what mountain are you talking about?   We are always adding new mountains to the master list on the ski bike / snow bike Facebook page.

post #8 of 12

We can now look forward to another 1000 posts on the subject of collisions between ski bikes and skiers on the "Time for the Code of Conduct to be updated" thread.

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We can now look forward to another 1000 posts on the subject of collisions between ski bikes and skiers on the "Time for the Code of Conduct to be updated" thread.

 

 

If everyone would stop having the priviledged driver attitude like BMW and Lexus owners, there would be alot less collisions on the roads and slopes.   Anyone concerned about skibike collisions should probably hold a mirror up in front of themselves and then do a self-assessment.

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I have never hit anyone on the slope with my Lexus.

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If everyone would stop having the priviledged driver attitude like BMW and Lexus owners, there would be alot less collisions on the roads and slopes.   Anyone concerned about skibike collisions should probably hold a mirror up in front of themselves and then do a self-assessment.

What? 

post #12 of 12

That's funny.

 

I can only speak for myself, but likewise [as a traditional skibobber] I have never hit a BMW or Lexus...  or any skiers, snowboarders or trail signs or snowmaking spigots or lift tower padding or trees while on the slopes.

 

Riding a traditional skibob (as the Europeans call it) utilizes four skis underfoot.  Think of the control you have on a snowboard.  It all depends on use of one edge at a time controlling speed and direction.  Skiers use two edges at a time for speed and direction.  My slopetool has a front ski ~90cm, a back ski ~90cm, and two footskis ~55cm.  My 'footprint' on the snow is in a diamond shape.  Every time I turn to control my speed and direction it is with four ski edges at a time.  Control and piece of mind are much more to my liking than in all my years on skis and boards.

 

Added bonuses include no more knee pain/sore lower back and I don't get exhausted anymore.  I am in as much control of my faculties at the start of my day as the last run of the day.

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