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Hello All, looking for some guidance. Much like mfa81's post further down, I'm looking for some advice on back-country gear, AT not Tele.

 

I'm located in the Northeast, my back country trips will be in the 'Daks and Green Mountains. I skied for 18 years at the resorts, but gave it up for the lack of "soul" if that doesn't sound too pretentious. Like mfa81, I've been fascinated with the idea of back country and "earn your turns".  I did foray into some improvised back country in some local parks with some Alpine Trekker adapters on my DH gear, but then life got in the way before I could do much more than that.

 

So, I am now without any gear except clothing, and feeling overwhelmed at trying to decipher what I need. My goal is weekend trips for a run or two, skinning up and locked heel down. I've got a family at home so I don't need to huck off 40 story cliffs or see what a cornice collapsing under me feels like, but I do want to be able to get through the trees. And there is a high likely hood I will return to at least the local ski hump resort to introduce the young ones as they get older.

 

Did I mention the family? The paradigm of that is of course I have no $$. So used equipment is of particular interest as well. And for reference, I'm not a small human, 5'11" and 220lbs. Before you draw a picture of a huge gut, think more running back size.

 

1) Boots Bindings and Skis - Can anyone give some advice on what I should be looking for, brands/models? Size range? Seems shorter is preferred compared to resort DH. Ones to stay away from? Or a particular system, thinking bindings here, that I should lean towards? And I have wide feet, both genetically and from trauma.

 

2) Used - Besides here at Epic, any good spots that used AT gear gets listed that I can watch? I'll be in Burlington VT soon and plan to hit some the gear shops there that deal in used, but I'd like to have an idea of what I'm looking for and $ range before I do so.

 

3) Accessories - Skins-I see some skis now have attachment points built in, but you have to use the correct skins and they appear to be pretty $$$. Worth it? Crampons- I don't plan on assaulting K2 anytime but something to aid in the ascent when I'm too old to skin would be nice. Suggestion?

 

I know I"m asking a lot, but any advice is greatly appreciated! Have a great day everyone!

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In Burlington:  http://gearx.com/about/hours_location.html -- probably your best bet for trying stuff on (including used) and discussing in real life with people who know and use the gear where you'll be using it.  with boots obviously the fit is everything so unless you're pretty confident about sizing 

 

I'm on tele so can't help you much on the particulars of AT gear but in terms of pricing and background info, but for your browing pleasure:

-- http://www.telemarktalk.com/phpBB/viewforum.php?f=4 (not just tele)

-- time for tuckerman -- http://timefortuckerman.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=28

--  at tgr you'll see way more AT gear than here: http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/forumdisplay.php/9-Gear-Swap and also look in their "tech talk" forum

-- state-of-the art AT gear reviews and info: www.wildsnow.com

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In Burlington Outdoor Gear Exchange mentioned in previous post has a lot of used gear.  However, and I was just there 2 days ago, most of it is tele.  I saw one set of boards with good AT bindings but the were extremely fat boards.  You can find ways to attach skins and OGE also has a lot of parts like clips and loops that can help in that regard.  They also have the best price I could find anywhere for Fritschi Freeride Pro bindings but they are still very pricey compared to tele or standard DH bindings.

 

I prefer a shorter ski for maneuverability both uphill and finding lines between tight trees.

 

I personally don't like anything real fat and just bought a pair of last years G3 Saints which are 93mm at the waist and are very light.

 

I doubt you will need crampons.

 

I used to use my old racing boots but have recently purchased a pair of Technica Cochise which are considered side country boots.  They are pretty much just as stiff as my old Langes but weigh about half as much...I have not yet gone off piste with them.  I have wide feet and they fit me well but they are not inexpensive.

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Hello All, looking for some guidance. Much like mfa81's post further down, I'm looking for some advice on back-country gear, AT not Tele.

 

I'm located in the Northeast, my back country trips will be in the 'Daks and Green Mountains. I skied for 18 years at the resorts, but gave it up for the lack of "soul" if that doesn't sound too pretentious. Like mfa81, I've been fascinated with the idea of back country and "earn your turns".  I did foray into some improvised back country in some local parks with some Alpine Trekker adapters on my DH gear, but then life got in the way before I could do much more than that.

 

So, I am now without any gear except clothing, and feeling overwhelmed at trying to decipher what I need. My goal is weekend trips for a run or two, skinning up and locked heel down. I've got a family at home so I don't need to huck off 40 story cliffs or see what a cornice collapsing under me feels like, but I do want to be able to get through the trees. And there is a high likely hood I will return to at least the local ski hump resort to introduce the young ones as they get older.

 

Did I mention the family? The paradigm of that is of course I have no $$. So used equipment is of particular interest as well. And for reference, I'm not a small human, 5'11" and 220lbs. Before you draw a picture of a huge gut, think more running back size.

 

1) Boots Bindings and Skis - Can anyone give some advice on what I should be looking for, brands/models? Size range? Seems shorter is preferred compared to resort DH. Ones to stay away from? Or a particular system, thinking bindings here, that I should lean towards? And I have wide feet, both genetically and from trauma.

 

2) Used - Besides here at Epic, any good spots that used AT gear gets listed that I can watch? I'll be in Burlington VT soon and plan to hit some the gear shops there that deal in used, but I'd like to have an idea of what I'm looking for and $ range before I do so.

 

3) Accessories - Skins-I see some skis now have attachment points built in, but you have to use the correct skins and they appear to be pretty $$$. Worth it? Crampons- I don't plan on assaulting K2 anytime but something to aid in the ascent when I'm too old to skin would be nice. Suggestion?

 

I know I"m asking a lot, but any advice is greatly appreciated! Have a great day everyone!

 

1. You have to choose between tech binding or full din binding. Since you ski in the dacks, go to The Mountaineer in Keene. They have a few things for you to demo (Dynafit and Marker).

2. Burlington has gear exchange, but most of their stuff are tele. Look at TGR for used gear, they have ton of stuff for sale.

3. Most of the new AT skis now have build in clip in points. You don't need them, just get BD skins and cut down to size. Ski crampons or mountaineering boot crampons? Ski crampons usually are ski binding specific. Mountaineering crampons, just go with steel crampons that's on sale. I use G12, like them a lot.

 

From my personal experience with the Dacks, it's a lot of work for very little reward. It's more about suffering than skiing in the dacks, especially for weekend warriors like me.

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Thanks all for the responses and info. I think I've got some places to go and touch stuff and figure out what I need. And I was thinking boot crampons, FYI. Now if we can just get some cold and snow...

 

Have great holiday's everyone!

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