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Demo'd severl skis yesterday (TST, RKR, Cody)

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Hi guys.  At Mt. Hood Meadows yesterday they had their demo days event going on.  There were about 10 vendors onsite and access to the skis was FREE!  Pretty sweet deal and I am totally surprised it wasnt more crowded.

 

I had my kids with me so I was only able to test 3 sets of Skis:

181 Icelantic Nomad RKR

186 Armada TST

186 4FRNT Cody.

 

Conditions:  It was cold (25ish), snowing hard, and blowing hard.  There had been about 8 - 10 inches over the previous 2 days.  Groomers were packed powder and off the groom was a mix of skier packed powder with some moguls.  Funny thing is - it was PERFECT conditions for this type of All-Mtn fat ski....but I was actually more interested in how well the skis performed on the groom....figuring they would all do well in soft crud and skier tracked powder.

 

Here is my take (in oder of increasing greatness)

 

3.  4FRNT Cody.  Disclaimer - I skied these toward the end of the day and I was tired.  That said, these skis were "planly" feeling and not as playful as I would have liked.  They skied very similar to my Rossignol S5 Barras.  The ski felt better the faster I skied, but the ski felt like it was fighting me a bit when trying to ski slower/slalom style sking (aka skiing the crud like moguls) or taking playful lines down the groom.

 

2.  Armada TST - This ski was very fun.  Very turny and able to  slalom well.  I really liked that I was able to drive the ski hard in the crud without the nose dipping.  I had 3 really fun runs on this skil.  Just a note - I dont think this is a "bomber" ski that is meant to be skied fast.  It really felt like the "sweet spot" was a shorter-turn type ski style...trees, small moguls, etc.  I think bigger skiers skiing hard would feel like the ski was unstable.  I am not a bomber and I thought I was "sold" until I skied.....

 

1.  Nomad RKR. Wow...what a FUN ski.  So playful.  The ski is able to whip around in just about any conditions.  Skiing the crud I could either power through at higher speeds or slow down and zip around strategically hitting stashes of soft snow.  Heading to the lift I traveled down a groomed run where the wind scoured areas were cordouroy, and the wind favored areas were 5-6 inches of blown-in powder.  It was a blast to transition between these and to note that the ski was just as playful and fun in any situation.  I felt very comfortable carving as well...good grip and a confident feel.  Just an unrelated side note....I have always loved Icelantic's ski art.  Not that it matters, but I really am not a huge fan of the current graphic.  The pink and teal color palatte make it look like a woman's ski.  Again....not that it matters...and even though the art is not my favorite I am still going to buy them ;)

 

 

Hope this info is useful!

post #2 of 14
Having spent the day today on a TST in boot top plus, I think your description of that ski is pretty well spot on.
post #3 of 14

Hmm, I demoed the Cody (in 179) and TST this past Spring in much the same type of conditions.

My impression of the Cody was vastly different than yours...I found that the ski had a light feel and was super playful and very nimble.  It made tight trees and other ridiculously tight spots easy as pie.  T'was the funnest ski I'd ever been on.  

 

I bought it, and it's now my daily driver...except for super-firm days.  It gets lots of fun tree-skiing where I ski.

 

On the other hand, I hated the TST more than most any ski I've ever been on.  The reason the nose doesn't dip is because it's 6 feet in the air!  

 (O-K, that could be a slight exaggeration)  A LOT o' early rise, and unstable is an understatement.  It's definitely popular, though, so I guess I'm in the minority with that assessment.

 

Anyway, it just goes to show how different skiers can have such widely divergent views on the same ski...

Lesson:  Demo, demo, demo...

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Hey Skierish - how big are you?  I am 6'3'' 190 and was wondering if I would have liked the Cody better had I tried the 179 vs. the 186?  The 186 was the only size they had.  The other thing is - I really wonder if my being tired maybe played into the equation more than I originally thought. 

 

I just felt like I was fighting the ski more than the TST, and definitely more than the RKR.  I bet the RKR becomes a huge success for Icelantic IMHO.

 

But you are right - you will find people who LOVE the TST and people who wanted to chuck them in the garbage.  Same with the RKR - if you  watch the video reviews on skis.com a bunch of the guys give it like a 2-3.5 stars (although, those guys look to be skiing on an ice hill in the mid-west), where Skiing and Freeskier magazines gave it an editors choice. 

 

You are also right about demoing.  With skis now selling upward of $800 how can you afford to take a risk??  Sure glad I did.

 

Final PS - I live in Portland so I feel obligated to try ON3P's Vicick (Go LOCAL!).  I will add that ski to this review once I get a chance to try it.

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Originally Posted by pbohart View Post

Hey Skierish - how big are you?  I am 6'3'' 190 and was wondering if I would have liked the Cody better had I tried the 179 vs. the 186?  The 186 was the only size they had.  The other thing is - I really wonder if my being tired maybe played into the equation more than I originally thought. 

 

I just felt like I was fighting the ski more than the TST, and definitely more than the RKR.  I bet the RKR becomes a huge success for Icelantic IMHO.

 

But you are right - you will find people who LOVE the TST and people who wanted to chuck them in the garbage.  Same with the RKR - if you  watch the video reviews on skis.com a bunch of the guys give it like a 2-3.5 stars (although, those guys look to be skiing on an ice hill in the mid-west), where Skiing and Freeskier magazines gave it an editors choice. 

 

You are also right about demoing.  With skis now selling upward of $800 how can you afford to take a risk??  Sure glad I did.

 

Final PS - I live in Portland so I feel obligated to try ON3P's Vicick (Go LOCAL!).  I will add that ski to this review once I get a chance to try it.

Great review. Thanks for the info. BTW I love those skis.com youtube videos... "Yeah I just got done skiing this 120mm rockered fatty down a 10 degree icy slope. It sucked!!!!" Thanks for the help

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Hey Skierish - how big are you?  I am 6'3'' 190 and was wondering if I would have liked the Cody better had I tried the 179 vs. the 186?  

 

I'm 5'10'' and 175lbs.  Given your added size, it sounds as if you were on the best length for you.

I think a truly easy-skiing ski tends to forgive fatigue a little bit when you're tired, so it probably just is a case of it not being the ski for you.

 

I was just offering a counter-view so that anyone in the market for that type of ski would still give it a try anyway.  Someone else might love it, as I did, or they may not be as impressed and go with something else, as you did.  Either way, people in the market for a ski like that would obviously be doing themselves a favor by trying each for themselves.

 

I've heard nothing but good things about the Vicik, so it will be interesting to see your review on it.  Of course, I had heard nothing but good things about the TST and expected to love it as a result.  Well, my post above shows how that went....icon13.gif

post #7 of 14

the non-rockered Nomad SFT used to be my favorite ski. its a fun ski. I hope to demo the RKR. 

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I hope to demo the RKR. 

 

ME TOO!beercheer.gif

post #9 of 14

Small correction- TST is 183m.  I have them as my everyday ski and they are incredibly versatile because of their huge tip rocker and short sidecut with very stiff underfoot section.  Yes, they have quirks; I've found that a very centered stance is required to get them to turn properly because they cannot be driven through the tips like a non-rockered ski.  Their speed limit is surprisingly high if you stay centered as they are stiff enough to not flop around.  However, they are more of a poppy and energetic than damp ski (eg. Dynastar Legend Pro), so probably better for a skier like me who likes to hop and jump off things and zip through crud at moderate speed.  I shouldn't forget to mention that their float is awesome given their width, not surprising with the huge tips.

post #10 of 14

Pbohart - in regards to the RKR graphics, I agree.  Not the best.  I had a chance to demo them last year and I assumed they were women's skis, so I passed!  I'm very interested in giving them a try.  Maybe these RKR's with John Denver's likeness are more up your alley: 

http://www.icelanticskis.com/product_detail.cfm?productID=134&categoryID=43
 

post #11 of 14

I agree, Icelantic's graphics require a special taste.  Seems like a lot of their skis are still aimed at folks who like short and fat sticks with exaggerated shapes.  I find them unappealing.

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I agree, Icelantic's graphics require a special taste.  Seems like a lot of their skis are still aimed at folks who like short and fat sticks with exaggerated shapes.  I find them unappealing.

 

If you haven't skied them, don't knock them.  I own a pair of Shamans and used them for two seasons as my daily driver, including teaching.  I never had any complaints.

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To anyone who has skied the Codys i have a chance to get a pair of either Codys or Volkl Mantras pretty cheap. Cannot find to many reviews online for the Codys. Any advice???

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To anyone who has skied the Codys i have a chance to get a pair of either Codys or Volkl Mantras pretty cheap. Cannot find to many reviews online for the Codys. Any advice???

 

As I explained in a tad more detail in the other thread where you posted this poser...

If you want super-stiff, go with the Mantra.

If you want medium-softish, go with the Cody.  (it's supposed to be 10% stiffer this year, but it will still be no Mantra)

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