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post #91 of 114

Can someone tell me if the 2014 Redster Pro 130 is heat moldable? Roger

post #92 of 114

Yes if you mean the 14-15 boot. Google for 'Atomic tech manual 14' for all the details and bootfitting adjustment reccmndtns.

post #93 of 114

has anyone in the Redster club got experience reducing flex by dropping a bolt on cold days?

 

I checked the tech manual - but it only covered cutting cheeks - I just want to be able to back it off a bit on cold days!

 

I'll try it myself in due course - but your trial and error might save me frustration :)

post #94 of 114

Yeah,  I ski my (softened) 150 WCs with one bolt.  

post #95 of 114
Don't take out both bolts though! That can get you hurt.
post #96 of 114

thanks - how did the softening work out - did you lower the 'v' , trim the cuff - still happy with them?

 

finding they kick me in the a** a bit - sometimes - turning volume down be nice to try! 

post #97 of 114
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Originally Posted by sashimi View Post
 

thanks - how did the softening work out - did you lower the 'v' , trim the cuff - still happy with them?

 

finding they kick me in the a** a bit - sometimes - turning volume down be nice to try! 


I cut them down with a ~ 3/4inch "U" cut in the lower shell.  Definitely improved them.  I could ski them OK before but they were too much ON/OFF to be effective.  Meant on a GS ski I couldn't modulate them the same and on a slalom locked you in fore/aft too much.  Now they are much better, more progressive and better able to pressure the cuff.  Still need some fine tuning so still racing on my older RTs at the moment.

 

Other thing i noticed is they are MUCH more temperature sensitive stiffness wise than the previous boot.  Also seem to be a bit wider than the RT in the forefoot although both nominally 95mm

post #98 of 114
You can grind off some of the plastic on the bottom of the cuff below the buckles, which allows the cuff to flex forward more before it engages the clog. I tried that on my dobie 150s before I gave up on them, and it helped a bit.

The starthaus guys have a great video on boot softening on YouTube showing how to soften boots, its a good tutorial that can save you $50-100.
post #99 of 114

Thanks for the replies above & hats off to the Starthaus guys for making the video! 

 

I try (!) not to think about gear so much (for at least 1 season after I buy something at least) -

 

Something is niggling me - I just can't decide if it's flex or lean, or fitness (more likely) or something..

 

Definitely enjoy aspects of the performance and feel - I just remember feeling a bit more poised all round (nostalgia perhaps :) )

 

So I have comparisons on my mind..     Anyone moved betwixt Redster to Lange RX/RS this year or last?

 

Experience for the lean feel and (perhaps lower 110, 120) flexes I'm curious about - any feedback appreciated!

 

(77kg 178cm male in the 14 Pro, don't race, Laser SX and Head Titan mainly piste fwiw)

post #100 of 114

I've got about 12 days (if you can call some of them "days" with our limited NE terrain) on my new closeout 2013-2014 Redster Pro 130s 98 last. I had our  local independent bootfitter do sole planing and alignment. He also added lift on the front of the soles. I did not have any grinding or punching done (I've always needed it in the past) I replaced the stock power straps with the expert Booster straps and reused my custom orthotics. My old boots were Atomic CS 140s I had softened.

 

I was not sure if the boots would be too stiff. These have the interchangeable below zeppa stiffeners and other than the first day I've used the softest flexing piece. No problem getting pressure on the front of the skis and the edge to edge quickness is great-a big improvement over my old boots. Fit is excellent-I have wide feet with high arches and wider toebox works well for me. We'll see how well the liners hold up.

 

My stats: 63 years old, 5'10' 180lbs. I'm a beer league and Masters "hobby" racer. Very limited gate time so far, but the boots feel good in the limited courses I've been in and they feel great free skiing.

post #101 of 114
Did anyone have any experience with junior redster race boots like wc 70 from last year or fis 70 from this year? Any advice for a girl, 10 years old, 5'25", 120 lb in size 25.0 MP?
post #102 of 114

I just got a bargain Redster 130, 2014 model. I would like to soften it slightly for the early days in the season, I understand this can be done by releasing one of the two bolts on the back of the cuff. Is there any difference between releasing the top or the bottom bolt? Thanks.

 

Take care,

BB

post #103 of 114
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Originally Posted by bbanzai View Post
 

I just got a bargain Redster 130, 2014 model. I would like to soften it slightly for the early days in the season, I understand this can be done by releasing one of the two bolts on the back of the cuff. Is there any difference between releasing the top or the bottom bolt? Thanks.

 

Take care,

BB

 

I will share the information I found about this matter. Boot under consideration is Atomic Redster Pro 130 ...

 

1) Two bolts are connecting the back of the cuff to the rest of the shell. The top bolt goes through a circular hole (no vertical translation possible) while the bottom bolt goes through a slightly elongated hole (allowing for vertical movement)

2) When both bolts are used the flex is the nominal one, no cuff inclination change is possible

3) When the top bolt only is used there is a slight reduction in flex (-5/10), still no cuff inclination change is possible

4) When the bottom bolt only is used there is a larger reduction in flex (-10/15), cuff inclination can also be changed

 

Take care,

BB

post #104 of 114
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by bbanzai View Post
 

I just got a bargain Redster 130, 2014 model. I would like to soften it slightly for the early days in the season, I understand this can be done by releasing one of the two bolts on the back of the cuff. Is there any difference between releasing the top or the bottom bolt? Thanks.

 

Take care,

BB

 

I have undertaken more permanent measures of softening my boots in the last years. Grinding off parts of the boot cuff.

post #105 of 114
Thanks, however I was looking for a non-permanent fix. The bolt can be removed and replaced in 3 mins, therefore it works great for me.

Take care,
BB
post #106 of 114

In case anyone interested, i have a pair of display Atomic Rester Pro 120 26.5 that I am willing to part to reasonable offer :)

post #107 of 114

If anyone is interested, there's a bunch of NOS '13-'14 Redster Pro 130s on Ebay right now. I picked up a pair for $125.00 shipped. I bought them for the liner-when the liner in my current pair packs out, I'll have a brand new one to put in at a bargain price rather than going aftermarket or buying new boots and getting the soles planed again.

post #108 of 114

Anyone use the Atomic Redster WC's without lace-up liners or without the laces? 

 

I am looking to rotate my 170's in as my full-time boot but my boot-up process is long enough with kids, ACL brace, etc.

 

Just wondering if folks use other liners or get around taking liner out and then inserting with foot in liner.

 

Thanks.

post #109 of 114
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Originally Posted by Moose32 View Post
 

Anyone use the Atomic Redster WC's without lace-up liners or without the laces? 

 

I am looking to rotate my 170's in as my full-time boot but my boot-up process is long enough with kids, ACL brace, etc.

 

Just wondering if folks use other liners or get around taking liner out and then inserting with foot in liner.

 

Thanks.

Not the same boot, but one of my buddies, tried his Dobermans with out the laces and had all kinds of issues. Mainly the tongue didn't stay in place. and caused pain issues. 

 

I ski the Head Raptor WC 150,

 

I don't have to do any lacing on mine, just pull the laces tight and and tie them. 

 

I spray the inside of the boot spine and back of the liner with Food Grade Silicone spray at home about every 3 times I ski and bring a small portable hairdryer with me in my pack  to soften the shells and they pop right on. 

post #110 of 114

 

I know someone who knows someone. 2017/18 Redster WC150

post #111 of 114
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I know someone who knows someone. 2017/18 Redster WC150

 

And? How'd they feel?

 

I can't say I like the look, but were they any different from the past 2 seasons?

post #112 of 114
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And? How'd they feel?

 

I can't say I like the look, but were they any different from the past 2 seasons?

They were tight. My foot is not shaped for the boot. Initial fitting got them enough to let me try them for a few runs on that day, but more work was required. They are quite different from the previous Redster, with the newest version not having the carbon injection, and instead using thicker walls where needed to get the power and strength. Compared to my bagged out previous boots, they were very precise, and felt like they were lighter even though they are 200g heavier. I was using the new Redster G9. 

 

The colour is bright, but compliments the rest of the Redster range, including helmet, goggle, bindings, packs and bags. My pants might be what is making the boots look off. 

post #113 of 114
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Originally Posted by Betaracer View Post
 

They were tight. My foot is not shaped for the boot. Initial fitting got them enough to let me try them for a few runs on that day, but more work was required. They are quite different from the previous Redster, with the newest version not having the carbon injection, and instead using thicker walls where needed to get the power and strength. Compared to my bagged out previous boots, they were very precise, and felt like they were lighter even though they are 200g heavier. I was using the new Redster G9. 

 

The colour is bright, but compliments the rest of the Redster range, including helmet, goggle, bindings, packs and bags. My pants might be what is making the boots look off. 

 

Interesting that they dropped the carbon injection. What they gain in weight must be off-set by the progressiveness of the shell. Interesting that you said they feel lighter.

 

I'm just personally not a fan of the color scheme. The skis look nice okay with the Atomic written in darker red, but the boots look.... bland and flat. They don't pop like the boots of past seasons.

post #114 of 114

very interesting that they went away from the carbon... I thought that was key to the technology in the boot... I love my 3rd season finished 130 Pro... was thinking maybe replace them next season but now maybe not...

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