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VJJ or TSTw?!?!

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Hi Guys!


I'm going to Japan in February to try and get my powder skills up to scratch!  I have Roxy Black Magic's at the moment, but they are done and I need to replace them with a ski that can kind of do it all!  I used to do some racing so was used to my carvers and then spent a year in Whistler which took me more off piste.  I want to continue on this road with eventually getting some touring bindings to get slightly further off the beaten track.


I have done quite a bit of reading and really like the sound of Aramada VJJs, which people are saying can still hold their own on groomers despite the width underfoot. I still want a ski that can rip on harder pack and still carve pretty well when I decide to bomb it down, but that will benefit me in the powder in Japan (I want to really love it, so I am will to compromise a wee bit on the on piste performance).  I have been reading about the TSTw as well, which sound like a great all mountain ski but people have been saying that it's best suited to smaller dumps of pow....


Any advice?  Has anyone skied both of these?  And if so, what differences did you notice and which would you chose if you were me?


Thanks in advance!



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Hi RebeccaP,

Given you say you want one ski that can do it all (this would be your only ski?) rather than part of a quiver, and given your interest in the backcountry down the road, the Armada TSTw would be my suggestion.

The Armada VJJ can hold its own on the groomers, but the TST will do better, and it will still be a blast in the powder with the big rockered and tapered tips.

Our crew was really impressed with the TST, and it's a big part of why we brought in Armada this year. The JJ/ VJJ are great, but more of a specialized powder ski that can run out the groomer to get back to the lift.

Have you skied anything wider than the Roxy?

post #3 of 6
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Thanks for your comment Start Haus! This would be my only ski really (I can still pull the Roxys out for my rock days in Scotland, but they are pretty wrecked!). But when I head over to Europe or the US or Japan this year it will be my only ski (I unfortunately don't get enough days on snow to justify a few pairs).

The only thing I have skied wider than the Roxy was I demo'd the Sir Francis Bacons recently and loved them! It was just at an indoor snow dome to see how something that wide would hold up on the piste and they were much better than I'd expected, infect I had a blast and felt pretty stable and agile when carving...
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I wanted to offer up a possibility that you may not have thought of.  If you are looking specifically at Armada take a look at the Norwalk, yes its a men's ski, but men's ski are simply unisex skis and with a little care to mount it slightly ahead of recommended would be just fine and it comes in a 169cm.  You get a ski with a width in between the TSTw and VJJ and has a longer turn radius than either, which in my opinion is better for a true powder ski.  I put one of my very good friends who is 140lbs at 5'5" on this ski as her everyday option and she loves it.  She does come from a strong racing background but had very little experience with wider skis or powder and she transitioned to both very quickly with this.


However, between the TSTw and the VJJ for one ski only I agree with Start Haus on the TSTw.

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Welcome to EpicSki!  I added a couple Tags (right of Post #1) as links to EpicSki info about those skis.  Scroll down to see links to related threads.


Have fun in Japan!

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I have 183 TSTs and they are my go-to ski for nearly all conditions. I think they would be a good ski for what you are describing for the following reason: 1. Huge tip rocker gives them the best float of any 100-105mm waisted ski I have ever tried. The rocker keeps the tip up even in 1-2ft of snow because the tails are narrow enough to sink a bit. Tips are nearly unsinkable in bottomless powder at moderate speeds. 2. Short turn radius and stiff underfoot flex means they rail turns on groomers. I was very surprised at how well they handle hardpack. 3. They are incredibly light weight for a ski of their size and stiff flex. I plan to use mine for resort and backcountry because they are a more solid ski than many heavier "backcountry" skis. TSTw is even lighter (and a little softer) than the regular TST. 4. Non-rockered tail provides a lot of support and oomph coming out of turns. Tails also do not wash out like some fully rockered skis. Again, I'm impressed by the power of these skis given their light weight. My only criticism of the TST is that the huge front rocker means that you have to stay quite centered on the skis when turning on hardpack. I cannot drive the tips with forward shin pressure as hard as I would with a non-cambered ski. I imagine that you might notice this given your racing background, but the VJJ would have the same issue plus "looser" feeling tails on hardpack.
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