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post #61 of 67
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Originally Posted by Bazzer View Post

Thanks for that update.

 

FWIW, I've found VR's daily snowfall reports to be fairly accurate. However, as I hope to pay a visit with Baz Jr. early next month, please do keep on spreading the Vail Hatred, and not just here on Epic. Please let everyone on NS, TGR, BC, the New York Times, USA Today, and any other venue that you can think of know how horrible it is to ski there.

 

Baz Jr. and I know our way around some, and can entertain ourselves and our friends mightily, and find some stashes even a day or two after a good dump.  But if you can dissuade others from visiting the mountain during our stay, I'm sure that we can benefit from your disinformation. 

 

 

 I generally find that Vail tends to underreport snow based on their snow stake location at Mid Vail compared to where I tend to ski....Back Bowls and BSB and Chairs 10 and 11 but they do own Breck and they are the worst about over reporting snow.  Every large mountain has problems with reporting snow because some places on the mountain get more and some get less so depending on where you ski you'll get different conditions.  I think (and it's just my opinion) that the resort should report a number that attempts to represent the avg experience across the mountain.  I think Vail does that fairly well but Breck does not.  

post #62 of 67
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Originally Posted by Finndog View Post

However, since I am ADHD and OCD, I have been monitoring the postings.

You shouldn't have a report, then 2 hour later change one of the amounts and not the cumulative.  Yesterday for instance, the increased the 48 hour amount by 2" but didn't increase the cumulative. How is that correct?  Their own splash page on the site read 17" when the snow report showed 20"

Why not just post two different totals (24 & since the close, or in this case, 5am till noon)  so people viewing it aren't confused and it doesn't seem like they can't track the totals accurately.

That was awesome. One round of coffee was not enough to read this as fast as I needed in order to understand it. biggrin.gif
post #63 of 67
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Originally Posted by NayBreak View Post


That was awesome. One round of coffee was not enough to read this as fast as I needed in order to understand it. biggrin.gif

Sorry! That would be the ADHD biggrin.gif,  The reporting method is crazy, I understand what Tam said but it doesn't seem to make sense as to what is being posted.  

post #64 of 67
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Originally Posted by UGASkiDawg View Post

 

 

 I generally find that Vail tends to underreport snow based on their snow stake location at Mid Vail compared to where I tend to ski....Back Bowls and BSB and Chairs 10 and 11 but they do own Breck and they are the worst about over reporting snow.  Every large mountain has problems with reporting snow because some places on the mountain get more and some get less so depending on where you ski you'll get different conditions.  I think (and it's just my opinion) that the resort should report a number that attempts to represent the avg experience across the mountain.  I think Vail does that fairly well but Breck does not.  

 

Rule of thumb,

 

With Vail - expect to find significantly more snow in the more favorable aspects of the mountain (e.g., Chair 10, Chair 11, BSB.  Expect their total to reflect about what is on the mid-mountain areas - Chair 2,3,4, 26

 

With Breck - expect to find about what they report in the more favorable areas up high (Windows, hike-to areas of Peak 9, areas not hit by wind in Chair 6).  Expect to find less on the mid-mountain areas on Peak 7,8,9,10, and very minimal amount down at the base.

post #65 of 67
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Originally Posted by afski722 View Post

 

Rule of thumb,

 

With Vail - expect to find significantly more snow in the more favorable aspects of the mountain (e.g., Chair 10, Chair 11, BSB.  Expect their total to reflect about what is on the mid-mountain areas - Chair 2,3,4, 26

 

With Breck - expect to find about what they report in the more favorable areas up high (Windows, hike-to areas of Peak 9, areas not hit by wind in Chair 6).  Expect to find less on the mid-mountain areas on Peak 7,8,9,10, and very minimal amount down at the base.

 

 

Yes....in other words Breck is totally misrepresenting their snowfall and Vail generally isn'tnonono2.gif

post #66 of 67
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Originally Posted by afski722 View Post

 

Rule of thumb,

 

With Vail - expect to find significantly more snow in the more favorable aspects of the mountain (e.g., Chair 10, Chair 11, BSB.  Expect their total to reflect about what is on the mid-mountain areas - Chair 2,3,4, 26

 

With Breck - expect to find about what they report in the more favorable areas up high (Windows, hike-to areas of Peak 9, areas not hit by wind in Chair 6).  Expect to find less on the mid-mountain areas on Peak 7,8,9,10, and very minimal amount down at the base.

 

That explains the pics I've been seeing from around Chair 10 today. Cannot wait to get up there tomorrow.

post #67 of 67
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Originally Posted by UGASkiDawg View Post

 

 

 I generally find that Vail tends to underreport snow based on their snow stake location at Mid Vail compared to where I tend to ski....Back Bowls and BSB and Chairs 10 and 11 but they do own Breck and they are the worst about over reporting snow.  Every large mountain has problems with reporting snow because some places on the mountain get more and some get less so depending on where you ski you'll get different conditions.  I think (and it's just my opinion) that the resort should report a number that attempts to represent the avg experience across the mountain.  I think Vail does that fairly well but Breck does not.  

Agree with a lot of what you say, but your average experience may be far different than my average experience.  I have seen 3 different numbers (Dercum, North Peak and OUtback) posted at Keystone in the restrooms, but believe that it is the North Peak number that gets posted online.  

 

As far as Breck goes, it is true that at the base they don`t normally have what they are reporting, but I have rarely been disappointed when I get up to the t-Bar and Imperial which is where I prefer to ski on powder days.

 

I think another issue that can throw people off is the timing of the snow.  Mountain A can say they got 12" in 24 hours, but if most of it fell between 5 am and 4 pm, then I can guarantee you that it will not ski like a foot the day it is reported.  Vail and Breck have added a "overnight" total this year on their site, so that should help.  OTOH, I took out my all mountain skis Tuesday at Vail based on the fact that only 2" of their 8" fell overnight and was pleasantly surprised to find 6" fresh on most of the groomers with much deeper snow elsewhere as a result of heavy snow from 5 am to mid-morning.  I stuck my pole off to the side of one cat track and had it to the handle, so the most agreeable thing you said was that different parts of the mountain get different amounts of snow.

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