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post #31 of 40
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Originally Posted by rick p View Post

YES.

 

REI replaced my Volkl's with a new identical pair when they inadvertently drilled all the way through the ski while mounting the bindings.

They screwed up, admitted it, and then fixed it to my satisfaction without me even having to raise my voice. Still have and love those skis.

In my experience REI tries hard to to the right thing.

 

Good luck,    rickp

 As they should have. What happened to you was poor workmanship. IMO in the OP's situation, If the sticker was on the ski REI should answer for what happened. But it was on the shrink wrap and the OP didn't point it out. As I said in an earlier post, I don't believe it is the tech's job to study the shrink wrap for special instruction and he mounted on the line.

On the other hand, La Sportiva did a shabby job by putting the sticker on the wrap and not directly on the ski. Shame on them.

post #32 of 40

If you are bringing a ski to a shop that said shop does not sell. It is incumbent upon you to ensure that the tech understands precisely how where you want it mounted. If there is some vague post production mount instructions on the WRAPPER of the ski, then you for sure should have made the special mount point known.
 

post #33 of 40
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Originally Posted by rickg View Post

For the vast majorty of skiers, myself included, this is not a realistic solution.  There is a reason why binding techs are required to take classes and clinics to maintain their certification from each binding mfg.

 

This type of response really doesn't help the original post and situation.  Just sayin....

 

Rick G


Rick,  gets tough to spoon feed every guy that posts this complaint.  I did spell it out in another thread of the same nature.  Maybe you should look at it and see if your up to mounting your own bindings.  This is not rocket science. I have been skiing 8 years and mounting my own skis for 3.  Just sayin........

post #34 of 40
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Originally Posted by liv2 ski View Post


Rick,  gets tough to spoon feed every guy that posts this complaint.  I did spell it out in another thread of the same nature.  Maybe you should look at it and see if your up to mounting your own bindings.  This is not rocket science. I have been skiing 8 years and mounting my own skis for 3.  Just sayin........

Do you test for release and are you covered by manufacturer's warranty?

Not being a devil's advocate.  Mounted a pair of skis myself, but I don't want to be in that business, and I'd gladly pay 20 or 30 bucks to do it well for me.

post #35 of 40

1- You won't notice it skiing the back country variable snows.

 

2- I had Shuksan / Dynafit mounted be a reputable Washington shop. They mounted them about 1.5 cm back. Word by skiers in the know told me that was the normal set back for the heavy PNW snows. I remounted on the line to ski in Tuckerman but I'm not a good skier and did not notice any difference. 

 

I would ask REI why they did that and ski them to see if I noticed any weirdness. 

post #36 of 40

I've had two pair of new skis this winter that showed up with the mid sole mark in the wrong location.  One pair a full 2cm to the rear.  One pair 1cm off from one ski to the other.

 

It is an industry issue just not La Sportiva.  La Sportiva attempted to fix that mistake..although the ski pictured were sales samples and .....NOT...retail skis.  S I might cut them some slack for the label on the shrink wrap.  Or not.

 

First line of defense is taking a look and measuring your own skis.  Decent investment for most of us. Although to be honest I sure don't want the hassle.  Buy 'um, have them  mounted, ski 'um is about as far as I really want to look. 

 

But with two rather big screw ups this winter alone on two different pairs of skis...I've now become and "educated consumer" who pays a little more attention to what is happening with my own skis. 

 

2nd defense is a decent shop that pays attention to the details. 

 

For the guys here saying "it aint no thing".....how about we mount your favorite ski 2cm to the rear and see how you like the end result.  Some may not notice or give a chit.   I do on both counts.  Same reason that the skis is marked for a BOOT SOLE CENTER in the first place.  It actually does matter and is definded by the skis intended use and design.  1cm is the typically agreed distance that you (most anyone)  will find a difference in ski performance.  You can easily change how the ski will perform by changing the mount location.  Doing that intentionally for a reason is one thing.  Doing it from blind stupidity is another.

post #37 of 40
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Originally Posted by Dane View Post

2nd defense is a decent shop that pays attention to the details. This. Much as I love REI, not the first thread about this issue. They seem to react to skis like kids to 2x4's at those learn-to-use-tools rooms in science museums.

 

For the guys here saying "it aint no thing".....how about we mount your favorite ski 2cm to the rear and see how you like the end result.  Some may not notice or give a chit.   I do on both counts.  Same reason that the skis is marked for a BOOT SOLE CENTER in the first place.  It actually does matter and is definded by the skis intended use and design.  1cm is the typically agreed distance that you (most anyone)  will find a difference in ski performance.  You can easily change how the ski will perform by changing the mount location.  Doing that intentionally for a reason is one thing.  Doing it from blind stupidity is another. And this; go check all the threads on adjustable bindings etc. 2 cm is a substantial change because of the mechanics involved.

 

post #38 of 40

@Beyond. So, what would I expect to experience in how a ski handles mounted -1.5 rather than on the line? On an iced WC Slalom race course? On NE boiler plate? On soft groomers? Utah powder? PNW mashed potatoes?

 

Inquiring minds want to know.

post #39 of 40

Inquiring minds want to know more than is possible to know. As they realize by the way the question is couched, sort of a davluri it's up to the individual scent? But as they already know, the general discussion about binding location, BOF, powder skis' lines etc occupies oh say, 15,000 posts here and at TGR. I even did one years ago on moving a Goat's RF by 1.5 increments each run.

 

Pretty strong consensus that it makes a difference, and pretty strong consensus that moving forward quickens the response at the expense of stability and/or coming up in pow. Also that skier's habitual posture and mechanics figures in, such that a bit back will work better for folks who like to apply tip pressure, a bit forward for folks who like to ski neutral, do tricks. Oh yeah, and that having the bindings in two different fore-aft locations may not be optimal. You get to sift through the posts and report back with the details... wink.gif

post #40 of 40

70 deg bluebird day. Heading out to skin up 1000' for a view of the sunset and today's avalanche carnage. I'll report back.  yahoo.gif

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