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Just got a pair of Salomon Rocker2 108's, does anyone have any advice for which bindings i should buy to go with them?

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Salomon STH 14 or 16
post #3 of 22
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Any thoughts on the market jesters?
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The Salomon's will add a year of warranty to the ski. Jesters will work fine but Sth16's are $60.00 less and the Sth14's are $110 less. The Jester is a fine $299 binding except it is $359.00

post #5 of 22

I recently purchased some Head Mojos from EpicSki's own Dawgcatching for a good price.  He had 12 DIN or 15 DIN with wide brakes. www.dawgcatching.com  Cheaper and just as good as your other options. 

post #6 of 22
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post

The Salomon's will add a year of warranty to the ski.

 

That's neat to know that Salomon does that - and it makes perfect sense. Do other ski companies do that for their flat skis if you choose from their family of bindings?

post #7 of 22

Love my STH916's, and they are reasonably priced as well. I agree with Phil that the Jesters should be cheaper.

post #8 of 22

Barons.

post #9 of 22
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Originally Posted by justruss View Post

Barons.

 

That would be pointless considering the OP didn't express any interest in a touring-capable binding.

post #10 of 22
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Originally Posted by jaobrien6 View Post

 

That would be pointless considering the OP didn't express any interest in a touring-capable binding.

 

I agree, kinda. Except the OP didn't express any lack of interest in a touring binding either...

 

The OP didn't say anything about anything really. So it's hard to say what binding is best for the OP. In that case, pick something, or get whatever's cheapest. 

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In that case, pick something, or get whatever's cheapest. 

 

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post #12 of 22
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Basically I am looking at a solid binding for my powder skis during my trips out west. I am a Ski instructor/ski patroller and raced in college, so that is the background on me, i love tree runs and spend very little time in the park.

 

 

Taking price completely out of the equation..If they were all the same price as the Salomon sth 16's, which would you choose? My dins are normally around 12-14, are the pro's overkill for me, or do you think that I would be fine with the regular Jester's?

post #13 of 22
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post

The Salomon's will add a year of warranty to the ski. Jesters will work fine but Sth16's are $60.00 less and the Sth14's are $110 less. The Jester is a fine $299 binding except it is $359.00

 

 

That's the answer.  But, if you don't like it feel free to spend more than is necessary.

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Originally Posted by mtcyclist View Post

That's the answer.  But, if you don't like it feel free to spend more than is necessary.
Why is it the answer? Where are any pros/cons to each binding other than a warranty? Once again, taking price out of the equation, which binding would be best and why? Thanks!
post #15 of 22
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Why is it the answer? Where are any pros/cons to each binding other than a warranty? Once again, taking price out of the equation, which binding would be best and why? Thanks!


Because these are good, solid, durable bindings proven to do the job. In addition you get the warranty and they are cheaper. Why is it not the answer?

post #16 of 22
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Why is it the answer? Where are any pros/cons to each binding other than a warranty? Once again, taking price out of the equation, which binding would be best and why? Thanks!

 

Taking touring features out of the discussion, bindings are all pretty much the same these days from a functionality standpoint, which is why they are such a commodity item. They all hold your boots to your skis and have upward heel and lateral toe release (there is only one binding out there with any other release, and that's more an additional safety feature rather than a functionality feature). That Salomon offers a 1 year longer warranty on their flat skis if you use their suitable bindings could be a worthwhile consideration. I have personally delaminated skis more than once, and having them replaced under warranty was worthwhile to me.

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Hey Atomicskiracer,

 

On a wide ski like that, it's probably worth focusing on Marker's Royal Family bindings. The reasoning is that these bindings have the widest footprint on the market, which ultimately helps get your energy to the edge of the ski. I'm sure I'll catch some feedback from saying this, because many would argue that other bindings are just as wide. This is what Marker advertises though, and there is yet to be an official complaint from any other binding company regarding false advertisement. So take it all for what you will.

 

If you keep a din of 12-14, I'd recommend the Marker Jester, which tops out at 16. It also might be worth checking out the Marker Jester Schizo Binding, which gives you a bit of freedom regarding your mount position. Once the Schizo is mounted up, you can adjust your position depending on what type of skiing you're doing that day. I know you mentioned you don't go into the park very much (perfect, these are the wrong skis for that), but you might find the adjustability helpful regardless. Especially if you ever get into making some switch pow turns.

 

Other than that, I'd also suggest the Rossignol FKS, probably the 18 just to ensure you stay within your DIN range without stressing the springs. The reason I'd suggest these, is because they're super durable, and really safe. They're one of the only bindings around that still have the diagonal heel release, which I personally am a huge fan of. They are a bit more money, but honestly, these bindings will probably outlive this pair of skis, and still be good for a second round.

 

So that's my $0.02, hope it's helpful! Feel free to shoot me a message with any questions!

 

-Matt @ Skiessentials.com

post #18 of 22
While it is true the Royal Markers have widest foot print, it has little to do with the power transfer since the transfer happens thru screws. Widest screw pattern is on Looks/Rossies.
post #19 of 22

It's a fat ski that will be skied on soft snow - so it will be skied loose in loose snow. IMO, this renders the width of the binding interface and any potential advantage in generating more edge pressure from such width utterly moot. Powder skis barely need edges at all...

post #20 of 22

The only advantage a wider screw pattern has is less stress on the screws--so perhaps less chance of screws pulling out although the chance of that is very small. Otherwise there's no difference in leverage since the ski and binding is a rigid system as far as lateral torque in the binding segment of the ski. There would be an advantage if a boot had a wider attachment to the binding at the toe and heel, but since the width of attachment is determined by the DIN standard the width of the binding or of the screw pattern is meaningless as far as performance. pure marketing.  

post #21 of 22
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Originally Posted by atomicskiracer View Post

Basically I am looking at a solid binding for my powder skis during my trips out west. I am a Ski instructor/ski patroller and raced in college, so that is the background on me, i love tree runs and spend very little time in the park.

 

 

Taking price completely out of the equation..If they were all the same price as the Salomon sth 16's, which would you choose? My dins are normally around 12-14, are the pro's overkill for me, or do you think that I would be fine with the regular Jester's?

 

What did you use to race on? I was always a Salomon guy and never had any issues with them, so I've stuck with what I know, STH916 now for alpine setups (except I use Dukes for sidecountry skis, will replace with Guardians once they are market proven). I haven't had any issues with Dukes, but to me there is no reason to consider trying Jesters over STH916 when they cost more. I would consider trying them if they cost less. Power transfer on fat skis is not an issue with Salomons.

post #22 of 22
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Originally Posted by atomicskiracer View Post

Basically I am looking at a solid binding for my powder skis during my trips out west. I am a Ski instructor/ski patroller and raced in college, so that is the background on me, i love tree runs and spend very little time in the park.

 

 

Taking price completely out of the equation..If they were all the same price as the Salomon sth 16's, which would you choose? My dins are normally around 12-14, are the pro's overkill for me, or do you think that I would be fine with the regular Jester's?

 

Taking price out of the equation, I'd go for Look Pivot 14s (or Rossi FKS 140s). If a 14-DIN wasn't enough, or the race toe was the deal-killer then 18s/180s.

Still ignoring price, I might stick them on some MFD Alltimes for occasionally hiking.

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