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Apex Ski Boots is  an independent, but definitely not a garage operation. They likely don't spend too much on their molds.  It looks like a snowboard boot inside an open  "chassis."   I think that is cool, but I also have no idea about the performance. 

 

Daleboot has indeed been around since the 70's and I have a pair.  The original thinking was out of the box the way independents unusually do think.  I still can't figure out why other manufacturers cannot or do not cant the boot soles the way Daleboot does (canted soles pop on and off with the help of a screwdriver), or have the forward pressure adjusted with a cable.  Releasing  the cable in powder or for walking makes the boot versatile.  Perhaps the patent for this stuff is still good.  I dunno.  Anyhow, I like the idea of component boots but the lack of getting patent-free component parts may be why independent bootmakers don't exist..

post #32 of 33

I guess when you think about it, Lange when it started would absolutely have qualified as an Indie. Strolz today could be somewhere in between.

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Originally Posted by quant2325 View Post

Apex Ski Boots is  an independent, but definitely not a garage operation. They likely don't spend too much on their molds.  It looks like a snowboard boot inside an open  "chassis."   I think that is cool, but I also have no idea about the performance. 

 

Daleboot has indeed been around since the 70's and I have a pair.  The original thinking was out of the box the way independents unusually do think.  I still can't figure out why other manufacturers cannot or do not cant the boot soles the way Daleboot does (canted soles pop on and off with the help of a screwdriver), or have the forward pressure adjusted with a cable.  Releasing  the cable in powder or for walking makes the boot versatile.  Perhaps the patent for this stuff is still good.  I dunno.  Anyhow, I like the idea of component boots but the lack of getting patent-free component parts may be why independent bootmakers don't exist..

Salomon and Lange both offered variation of the Daleboot canted soles (SX92 series which iirc Salomon paid a royalty to Daleboot? and the Comp/Pininfarina series of boots from Lange) working retail at a Salomon dealer at the time and as a rep for Lange during the Comp days do you know how that helped the average skier? Not at all. People don't care. A very, very select few people will get actual canting/sole planing done even today, some will buy boots that are properly shell fit and maybe get a punch/grind/footbed and the other 80% are happy to ski around in boots that are 1 to 3 sizes to big because they are comfy. Drives me crazy.

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