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post #31 of 44
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Originally Posted by spindrift View Post

The Opus wants a modern skiing style.

 

I agree, the size is on the small end, but not crazy small enough to kill performance this way...

+1 on both points.

 

This is dead on.  At 5'10", 165# you are probably on the line between sizes.  I am 20# heavier than you (in the winter when I'm fat) and I'd ski the Opus in 184 for sure.  But at 165# you are reasonably lean and shouldn't be sinking the 178 (weight being the more relevant input in the sink v. float calculus - if height v. ski length were the issue you'd be saying stuff like "squirrelly at speed, not stable enough, not enough ski to engage. . . .").  But you are actually saying the opposite.  "Heavy" and "awkward" translate to me as "last weekend this was too much ski for me to manage in those conditions, the way I ski."  It just doesn't compute that a guy at 165# would sink the 178 Opus that drastically.  Feel small?  Maybe.  Unskiable?  No way.

 

Mount point could be an issue, but I wouldn't over think that one either.  You should be able to adjust.  That said, think that it totally depends on the ski and I disagree with the notion that a mount slightly negative of the line for a more directional skier kills the ski's purpose, "defeats the design" or suggests that you are on the wrong ski.  That's hyperbole.  I ski my Chetlers slightly negative of Team and they work great for me.  All of the benefits of an uber-fun, surfy powder ski, but optimized for the direction that I am typically pointing.  In my next life, when I am launching and landing big air switch, I'll move the mount forward.  Until then, they work great.  Go back through the threads on TGR.  Chris himself was recommending a mount slightly negative of Team for normal guys (on the older models) - not recommending that everyone non-pro, non-trickster just bag it and ride a S7.  But Spindrift and I actually agree, slight adjustments either way are a matter of taste - as long it is within a reasonable range and maintains the ski's character.  That's why I think that the mount point shouldn't be determinative in this case if it was done correctly.

 

Ultimately, I don't think that you need to become the skier that Pollard is to enjoy his pro model, any more than you need to be a peer of Chris Benchetler to ride the Chets, any more than you absolutely need to ride a Schizo or a rental track so you can micro adjust the mount point.  But you probably do need to spend some time getting used to the shape, the width and the feel (mount point included). Fix your boot situation and give the season time. 

 

Finally, don't re-mount unless you've given it a shot and really think that is the answer.  If the real solution for you is to dump the Opus and pick up something more traditional in feel, one less set of drill holes preserves some resale value.

post #32 of 44

Never mind

post #33 of 44
Thread Starter 

beyond "But the more I process your situation, the more I keep coming back to your size versus the 178 length - seem short for a guy who's slightly above average height and weight"

 

I think that is the first time I have been told I was above average height and weight eek.gif wink.gif I have always been thin or skinny, and I thought average height.

 

 

As far as 178 being the right size or not, I would have gone with the 185s but the only ones available at the end of last season were $800. I got a steal (IMHO) at $490 w/o bindings, for mine, and that was all I could justify spending at that time. Before pulling the trigger on them, I researched what size would be best, to make sure 178 wasn't to small. Most said 178 would be OK. I am a thin build, and trying to get down to under 160#. 


Edited by Brad Hall - 12/11/12 at 4:54pm
post #34 of 44
Thread Starter 

The more I think about it, and take in all your thoughts. The tip diving was most likely a combination of the crappy PNW "pow" that day, shallow slopes with not enough speed, and me not having enough time to get used to the skis. My comment "feel heavy and awkward", heavy was likely more to do with them being stiffer than the SFBs, and awkward was a poor choice of words, but again related to not enough time on them. 

 

The one thing that isn't in question is them being noticeably less "poppy" on jumps, my son and I both noticed it. I like jumping, and like the extra spring in the SFBs, but maybe staying closer to the ground isn't a bad idea at my age smile.gif

 

I'll give these more time w/the new boots and report back in a month or so. 

 

Thank you for all your comments,

 

Brad

post #35 of 44

Isn't anyone going to examine the possibility that it's a poor ski? come on! and I wouldn't want Eric P. designing anything I was going to ski on. What does he know about anything? and the ski is 3mm narrower in the tail than the tip, pretty symetrical, weird, awkward stupid shape for a person who skis forward. crap. sell them and buy something made in US or Eur. If anyone knows less than Eric P. it is probably the Chinese designers of Line skis.

post #36 of 44
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Originally Posted by davluri View Post

Isn't anyone going to examine the possibility that it's a poor ski? come on! and I wouldn't want Eric P. designing anything I was going to ski on. What does he know about anything? and the ski is 3mm narrower in the tail than the tip, pretty symetrical, weird, awkward stupid shape for a person who skis forward. crap. sell them and buy something made in US or Eur. If anyone knows less than Eric P. it is probably the Chinese designers of Line skis.

No.

post #37 of 44

^^^ davluri, I honestly can't tell if you're kidding or not.  I'm really hoping so.

post #38 of 44

Of course I'm not kidding. what point would you like to debate or contradict? I'm good to go for a couple comments.

 

skip the import issue though, it goes nowhere.

post #39 of 44
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Originally Posted by davluri View Post

Of course I'm not kidding. what point would you like to debate or contradict? I'm good to go for a couple comments.

 

skip the import issue though, it goes nowhere.

 

Skip all of it. Seriously. Those comments offer nothing useful or constructive.

post #40 of 44
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Originally Posted by spindrift View Post

 

Skip all of it. Seriously. Those comments offer nothing useful or constructive.


so just assume it's an awesome ski. no problem there. go ahead on. you champion your boutique and Chinese skis all you want.... and pleeeeese, ski on them, it's your just reward.

 

there are good points there. symetrical sidecut? are you kidding! poorly designed ski? always possible. skis designed by inexperienced, uneducated skiers? give me a break. nothing useful...screw you.

post #41 of 44

I haven't skied the Opus so I can't comment, but considering that it's almost impossible to find them used (meaning people love them) seems like pretty good evidence of a quality ski.  Pollard has also been designing skis for a while now and is one of the more fluid skiers out there, so to suggest he doesn't know anything is a little naive.

post #42 of 44
Thread Starter 

Before we have to see any more absurd comments from davluri, would a mod please close this thread. 

 

Again, thanks to (most) all of you for your insight,

 

Brad

post #43 of 44

^^ Let us know how it works out.

post #44 of 44
Thread Starter 

Well, I have had some time to better get to know my Opus', and the verdict is........ all is good smile.gif I am at the end of a week at Heavenly, got 6" of fresh Sunday morning and I had a blast on the Opus'. 

 

Skiing the big mountain really let the Opus' shine. Even on the groomers, they do very well, carve like crazy.

 

I have determined what the main cause of my issues was, it is the boots, although I have been able to deal with the problem a lot over the last week. The flex of the boot is so soft, if I even just relax my leg (don't even need to apply forward pressure) my knee will go well forward of "over my toes". I have to push down with the front of my foot to compensate. Having to use my feet this way causes pain, the pain makes it harder to apply pressure and it kind of snowballs (no pun intended) from there. The second, lesser issue was just poor conditions.

 

I haven't been able to get the new boots yet (obviously),  I am very confident that when I do it will fix any & all issues.

 

Thanks again for all the help,

 

Brad 

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