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Anyone seen the Dream Factory?

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 

its playing here tonight and im considering going. Kind of a late start for a skool night though.

post #2 of 20
Yes. Excellent. Seen this, and the new meathead and WM flicks, and this has been my fave so far this season.
post #3 of 20
Seen it. Its a ski movie with sone history of tgr and alaska skiing thrown in. But don't necessarily expect a documentary where you leave feeling you learned a lot, or even an extensive plot, just some nice ski footage. If they are having it as an event show up a little early to see any sponser booths, get autographs from the athletes and sign up for drawings.

Don't know about your area, but it sold out in Sf, so buy your tix beforehand or risk getting shutout...

Also I think its already available on itunes/dvd. So if you just want the movie you can get it that way
Edited by raytseng - 12/5/12 at 3:35pm
post #4 of 20

Love it. Great movie. really enjoyed the history aspect and the story behind a lot of the big mountain skiing and how Jackson Hole and other area skiers contributed to the Alaska boom. There is a lot of really great skiing as well. good interviews with todays stars juxtaposed with the stories of the original big mountain skiers. good discussions about "old school" skinny straight skis and how modern skis have changed the sport. 

 

 

 Masters of Stoke (MSP) is another great movie for this season as well. Seems like the year of nostalgia  but in a good way. 

post #5 of 20

I think "Dream Factory" was boring because, except for the "Corbet's Session," the whole thing was filmed in Alaska I think.  To be honest, IMHO, watching the same skiers skiing lines and spines up in AK that visually look the same year after year just gets old.

 

I have not doubt that the skiing they do must be exhilarating, but it doesn't necessarily translate into the best entertainment.  They also struck out with their music choices this year, IMO.

 

Furthermore (and this is not directed just at TGR), the tricks and park has to go from the ski films.  It's nice they've finally jettisoned snowboarding and made their own category for that.  They need to do the same with park/pipe/freestyle.

post #6 of 20

there are some great powder segments...  the corbets session is awesome

post #7 of 20
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Originally Posted by PlugBootBlues View Post

I think "Dream Factory" was boring because, except for the "Corbet's Session," the whole thing was filmed in Alaska I think.  To be honest, IMHO, watching the same skiers skiing lines and spines up in AK that visually look the same year after year just gets old.

 

I have not doubt that the skiing they do must be exhilarating, but it doesn't necessarily translate into the best entertainment.  They also struck out with their music choices this year, IMO.

 

Furthermore (and this is not directed just at TGR), the tricks and park has to go from the ski films.  It's nice they've finally jettisoned snowboarding and made their own category for that.  They need to do the same with park/pipe/freestyle.

 

You can't say that it's boring to see the same thing year after year at the top of your post and then dictate a formula that all ski movies must use at the bottom of your post.

A little bit of park and pipe provides some good variety for a ski movie and it's interesting to see the convergence of different disciplines. 

 

 

The movie was good.  I think I liked last year's slightly better but I had no regrets about seeing The Dream Factory.  I found the ending of The Dream Factor to be a little anticlimatic and abrubt. 

post #8 of 20
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 ...Masters of Stoke (MSP) is another great movie for this season as well. Seems like the year of nostalgia  but in a good way. 

 

Oh, yeah, I forgot about Superheroes of Stoke.  Saw that one too.  Also liked it.  Agreed about the amount of good nostalgia in those two movies.

 

Agreed also about the overabundance of the same AK lines in this year's crop of ski movies.  I understand that that's what the paying public likes to see, and it's where the consistent snow and best money shots were last season, but when the same lines, camera angles, and shot sequences turn up in film after film, it gets a little tiring.

 

Did love the 10th Mtn homage in the WM film this year.  Again with the nostalgia, I know.

post #9 of 20
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Originally Posted by PlugBootBlues View Post

I think "Dream Factory" was boring because, except for the "Corbet's Session," the whole thing was filmed in Alaska I think.  To be honest, IMHO, watching the same skiers skiing lines and spines up in AK that visually look the same year after year just gets old.

 

I have not doubt that the skiing they do must be exhilarating, but it doesn't necessarily translate into the best entertainment.  They also struck out with their music choices this year, IMO.

 

Furthermore (and this is not directed just at TGR), the tricks and park has to go from the ski films.  It's nice they've finally jettisoned snowboarding and made their own category for that.  They need to do the same with park/pipe/freestyle.


If you knew what you were looking at then it all might be more entertaining. It's a shame your myopic view of what the sport is precludes you from enjoying the art.

post #10 of 20
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If you knew what you were looking at then it all might be more entertaining. It's a shame your myopic view of what the sport is precludes you from enjoying the art.

Actually, I do know what I'm looking at and I find it boring.

U mad, brah?
post #11 of 20
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You can't say that it's boring to see the same thing year after year at the top of your post and then dictate a formula that all ski movies must use at the bottom of your post.

Actually, I can and did. And I said seeing the same skiers skiing Alaskan faces is repetitive. That has nothing to do with park skiing casting a shadow on the vestiges of quality TGR ski films have.
post #12 of 20

I enjoyed the movie but I can understand the sentiment that seeing the same Alaskan faces over and over again can get kind of boring sometimes.  It's why I appreciate the more artistic / stylistic approach MSP has taken in recent years.  Music selection is a big deal too.

post #13 of 20

The thing is, it's not the same faces. Maybe if you watch the one movie a year it appears that way. If you can't appreciate the different athletes, on the DIFFERENT lines, skiing them in different ways. Then you have a narrow view. And I'm sorry that you cannot appreciate the art of these athletes.
 

post #14 of 20

while I do agree to an extent about all the AK lines, I think you need to relook at Dream Factory. Its showing how each athlete has skied and how they are skiing lines. Its actually quite interesting and as ecimmortal says, its not the same lines. i have watched it a few times now,  theres some good stuff here if you are interested in the progression of the sport, its a great movie

post #15 of 20
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Originally Posted by ecimmortal View Post

The thing is, it's not the same faces. Maybe if you watch the one movie a year it appears that way. If you can't appreciate the different athletes, on the DIFFERENT lines, skiing them in different ways. Then you have a narrow view. And I'm sorry that you cannot appreciate the art of these athletes.
 

 

Yes, I know - I watch all of the movies.  I know it's not the same faces, but can understand the complaint that they all start to look alike.  Note that I personally am not complaining (I liked the movie) - I just said I understand why some people feel that way.

post #16 of 20

its all in how you watch the movie I guess. to a lot of us, its not just about the candy. 

post #17 of 20

Not sure how watching steep stuff in AK get shredded is boring? Especially with the higher quality cameras TGR and MSP are using these days, much better than the old blurry shaky cams of days past.

 

Watching Daron Rahlves go mach 10, Sage throwing tricks and Seth with his classic smooth style never gets old to me.

 

You know what you are going to get with MSP/TGR: Pow segments, park/pipe, probably one trip to exotic destination, young up and comer segment, AK closer. What else do you want? Resort skiing? Mountaineering? Documentary? You have to look elsewhere then.

post #18 of 20
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Originally Posted by gramboh View Post

Not sure how watching steep stuff in AK get shredded is boring? Especially with the higher quality cameras TGR and MSP are using these days, much better than the old blurry shaky cams of days past.

 

Watching Daron Rahlves go mach 10, Sage throwing tricks and Seth with his classic smooth style never gets old to me.

 

You know what you are going to get with MSP/TGR: Pow segments, park/pipe, probably one trip to exotic destination, young up and comer segment, AK closer. What else do you want? Resort skiing? Mountaineering? Documentary? You have to look elsewhere then.

They have had those in previous movies.  Like Davenport on the Matterhorn.

 

Alaska is the real deal.  The lines they ski are absolutely insane.  I doubt that there are more than a few hundred folk in the world who could actually ski those lines.

 

I do wonder whether they should be promoting the lines they ski to the extent they do.  Powder mag supposedly just ran a piece on how the media is, in part, to blame for the number of deaths occuring amongst the top skiers in the world.  It might be appropriate to be more circumspect about the absolute level of risk in skiing the lines that these folk are not executing -- perhaps it would put a more measured temperment on the sport.

 

Mike

post #19 of 20

I'm sure many of the naysayers would be more than content watching the same skiers ski the same race course one after another year after year, and find it exciting.

post #20 of 20

 Valdez Heli-Skiing History - Segment From The Dream Factory TGR Ski Movie

 

 

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